[bruceo]

I struggled with the ring problem for a long time and the only solution was to dump manila phonecanvas and go with the stock winmo dialer. Rings became instant. However there must be a fix because Mighty Mike's ROM and Caulkins Kitchen use cool versions of the manila dialer and ther is no ring delay on those. Caulkin's kitchen roms have about a 1/2 -1 ring delay and Mighty's rom that he cooked has no delay at all, which made me happy because I really like the black manila dialer. Right now the 21109 does have a problem with the phonecanvas seeing the ring folder as corrupted so that kills the ring, so I would avoid that sys until they have a stated fix.

I ran stock alltel for a few months and continued to hardrest and tweak and the battery life and overall experience sucked. Once I moved to a better cook'S rom and telus radio my signal has went up 2 bars, battery life tripled and I am finally loving this phone. Totally different experience. Shame on HTC for being such a CRAPPY ROM developer. Hundreds of phonces on the market and in the PPC business for over a decade with very little eveolution of winmo and they still cant get it right. Apple comes out with their FIRST device and mops the floor with HTC. HTC and MS should send half their profits straight to XDA and PPCgeeks because without the community and enthusiasts people would be stomping on these out of the box ****ty phones.