Quote:
Originally Posted by gguruusa
You do know you can patch up any kitchen to work, right? It can be done easiest, however using PPCkitchen.
ok, I've "stopped realizing that the PPCK is NOT FOR EVERYONE". Now I'm onto it IS for everyone.
lol - You realize that you are trying to argue in favor of using tools that even the author acknowledges as being antiquated? Essentially, you're arguing that using ancient versions of software is "innovative and progressive". Nice logic.
------------------------------
Back to the thread subject, you guys completely lost me in your xip discussion, and if I'm confused I'm sure everyone else is too.
Things are taken out of xip for two reasons: not enough xip space allocated (ram problem), or, xip partition isn't sized large enough (rom problem). Both are resizeable, but it's just plain easier to work within the existing layout than restructure stuff - so that's what most people do. Most of the older tools don't react well to non-standard layouts, anyway.
Things execute faster when they are in XIP form because they don't have to be rebased on load (rebasing is where you change all the jump tables to reflect where the module was actually loaded in memory). They also only load once (obviously, since they only load at a single fixed address). Unfortunately, nothing is free - not everything is pure and reentrant (which you must be to work right in xip form), and xip modules aren't unloadable - they permanently consume resources.
|
Well thank you for appreciating my logic ;c)
Question Guru, Where did you start? Just decompiled a ROM then created the PPC Kitchen? No intermediates? No learning curve? Just happened? When I am talking about innovation and growth, per se, Im reffering to my knowledge of how ROM's work and others knowledge. This is inovating (and asdly I must admit even exciting) to me to be able to understand XIP's, ROM folders, etc. Never done anything on this level before. Why stiffle it? Why try to stop the learning? Im not talking about inovation on a physical product level. IM talking about the human brain and what it can do when it starts learning something. That my friend is a form of innovation. But pelase lets not turn this into a game of symantecs, my terminology may not be perfect, nor am I.
I know the bepe style ktichens are old news to you. No doubt. But they work regardless of what the author says about there age. Fact of the matter is I would certainly put my ROM up on any benchmark test you have or can think of in comparison with a ROM produced by the PPCK.
BTW: I would love to work with someone on importing the correct GPS drivers so the ktichen would benefit the rest of us. As of now it doesnt. Even posted about in a thread or two. ASked a few people here and there. Wanted it even more than life itself at the time. But I never found what I was looking for. Had to move on. Would you like to help me undertand the PPC Kitchen better? If the kitchen is as good as you beleive it is maybe you will help instead of responding to me in a condesending matter of factly way. The balls is in your court now. You gonna pony and really help the XV6850 community or spew more condesension and rude comments towards me?
Why _ARE_ you so disrespectful to me? I give you guys nothing but respect. Its all over my own personal website. Here is a direct quote from my thank you post on my site. "
The PPC Kitchen Team - For all the work they do! They are way under appreciated. Without the work and dedication of these people this ROM would not exist." I gave you and your team credit for helping me even though you had no direct impact on what I did. You repay me with total disrespect because I choose to use a differnt kitchen? WOW! I promtoe YOUR team and prodcut on MY website (which I dont even use because it doesnt fully support MY phone)
You think if someone paid you respect you would do it back.
Anyways... Ball is in your court now. Are you really here to help?
Thank you for your time, your conversation certainly broke the boredom of flashing all night again ;c)
-Scott
EDIT1: I even give your team props in my sig block man. Come on, lets work togeth instead of argue. Are you willing?