[deviant.ones]

Well, after 26 hours of labor she had 12 pups, 3 stillborn. My other girl went into labor about 4 hours after the first finished and is 6 hours in now and has 5 pups so far. Just wanted to update so you know why I havn't done anything. With english mastiffs due to there extreme size, 200+ lbs for mine, you can not leave there sides at all during birthing and then after all pups are born you have to keep them seperate from the mom unless you are right there to watch which means first 2 weeks you have to get them every 2 hours for mom to feed them and then supplement feed them after they have emptied mom to make sure they all get enough. So I am exhausted, been up 50 hours or so on 4 hours sleep and at least another 12 hours of labor most likely.