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Originally Posted by PocketPcUser
If you are going on a long trip, don't turn it on and off every few minutes, as this will actually increase usage, and take longer. Instead, if you will be on the same road for at least 45 minutes, then just turn off the GPS (Don't just power off your device, as GPS probably still is in a lower power mode, still using some battery power.) and then turn off the device. Also, if you are not using your bluetooth, turn it off. It uses power even if you turn off your screen/via the power button.
Another tip is to keep your device cool during the GPS usage, or talk time. This might help the device charge and not overheat.
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You realize that taken out of context (i.e. apply it to something other than the TP) this sounds flat ridiculous, right? You realize you are giving tips to conserve battery power and/or reduce heat generation for a device that is
plugged in. Where else in the entire electronics industry is this even the least bit acceptable?
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Originally Posted by esqueue
BUT, how hard would it have been for them to have the device run off of the Charger instead of the battery? 1a is the biggest I've seen but maybe it should have been bigger. When the device overheats, simply stop charging and run off the charger so no drain occurs.
We can all agree that this is a great device but we still can't ignore something with such a simple fix. Again I am speaking for those who get this problem.
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Agreed, it should do this out of the box no matter what, but DO NOT let HTC off the hook that easily. The excessive heat and battery drain comes from the terrible inefficiency of one or more of the radio units. Some don't have the problem. Tools are readily available to gather data on power usage on a given phone. I wish more people would participate, especially the people who claim to have no problem.
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Originally Posted by Palladium
Since we are discussing background and qualifications, I have been writing software for and using PPC's since the days of Pocket PC 2000 (for the newbies, that is what WinMo used to be called 8 years ago). And design Online Monitoring systems (hardware and software) for process control equipment.
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Haha, life before WinMo? No way! Actually of all the PDAs I've owned (not many) none of them had WM installed out of the box. And only 1 was really suited to WM2003, though did run much better on it as it had an Xscale that had just come out and PPC2002 was not optimized for it.
And might as well mention that I have an EE degree.
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Originally Posted by Sponge14
#2 can be solved by replacing existing batteries with at least a 1500mah battery, or releasing an extended life battery in the US for a decent price.
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That is a really poor solution. You probably won't get the power density necessary to get over 1500mAh within the same dimensions. What is that, 10% improvement? When people's phone's are heating up, not charging, dying in the middle of the day, etc, do you really think 10% more battery life will do anything really useful? To go back to a car analogy I made earlier, it would be like taking the car with half the plug wires missing that gets under 10mpg and "solving" the problem by putting in a 10% larger gas tank.
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Originally Posted by blackwatch
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Honestly? I think that would just create a new breed of inefficient phones. They could charge a lot less for the product, get the performance they want, and still have similar life to what we have now. These phones need to get to the battery life of regular cell phones before we can say we have made progress. Then again, put that technology in a regular cell phone and it'll last for a month.
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Originally Posted by GoodThings2Life
Carry extra batteries if your usage requires it. Keep a cradle on your desk and set your phone on it when not in use at the office. Or go out and buy that precious Instinct or iPhone or Storm or whatever gets the job done. But let me tell you this-- even my colleagues with iPhone 3G's sit around at their desks with their phones connected to a charger all day. At least we have the option to swap our battery out if we want!
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If only simply putting the phone on a charger solved all the problems. Are you even paying attention?
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Originally Posted by GoodThings2Life
By the way, speaking of the battery meter upgrade to show 1% increments... did you catch all the warnings about it not necessarily being accurate right? That is, just because it reports 72% (as an example) it could very well be +/- 5% ... and this is especially true in the upper 15%.
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How does the battery life system work? Does it seem linear? Given that Li-Ion batteries should be capable of monitoring their current throughput, I don't see why, in late 2008, a simple voltage based battery life system is common. I have an older Dell laptop (ca. 2002). There is a battery utility that I use to monitor the performance of my batteries. The battery itself is in charge (punny) of monitoring its own rated capacity, present capacity and present remaining power. So when it has a fresh charge, it knows its rated capacity, and as the laptop uses energy, it keeps track of every electron, essentially counting down. When charging, it counts up. As the cells age, the rated capacity is not the true capacity and it will recalibrate itself (a full discharge is the most direct way to accomplish this) with the new, reduced capacity. Makes me wonder if all Li-Ion batteries are actually capable of this, with all the smarts and safety features they have (by necessity).
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Originally Posted by lipidfats
You may want to start a poll asking people to vote on what percentage their readout says after their phone's idle for 2 hrs (after a full charge of course and in 10% increments because not everybody has the 1% installed). If you do, make sure people w/ 1% increment readouts round their results up or down. I hope you resolve your issues, LateR.
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Didn't someone right in this thread state that the 1% increment mod is specifically least accurate at the top 10-15%? You are setting up for possibly the least consistent test possible.
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Originally Posted by Edwood
My Touch Pro does not get overly hot like others have complained. Perhaps it's because I have an Airave at home and it does not have to boost the radio power much for cell phone use. But the charging issue is still there. For Tethering it's not an issue because there is plenty of idle time when surfing for the charge rate to be higher than the discharge rate.
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Are you using the factory AC charger?