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Originally Posted by p-slim
Your problem is you keep trying to run opera. Opera 9.5 isn't really built for our phones. Of course its going to crash, our phone doesn't have enough ram to truely support that program. You keep running a program not meant for your phone then wonder why it crashes??? You know its ram issues, but if you don't run that, watch, it won't crash as much.
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lol, I only recently added Opera to my phone and rarely use it. I just gave that as an example of one app that consistently can't crack it. There's plenty. I had all these troubles before I touched Opera. IE would run out of memory on plenty of web pages, too, and other apps would drain my RAM down to nothing. And, again, the camera app is only sometimes usable.
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Originally Posted by cohowap
Thats is 100% exactly right. But the question in hand. This is obviously the main "Issue" with the Mogul, does the fact that they came out with a device that quadruples this amount of ram in the mogul make you(thats a general you, not YOU) feel your entitled to a free TP?
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Free? Not necessarily (not that I'd turn it down). Discounted to at least the same price a new customer who never went through the 18-month beta test that was the Mogul? Yes.
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Originally Posted by schettj
The "right way" is to not treat it like a phone with 128mb ram (this is all off topic now, sorry everyone else just skip over)
No dialer skins
No WAD, FAD, MAD, Manila, Magillia, Cubes, whatever, junk. Just a few today plugins, and rltoday.
Yeah, no Opera either.
S2U2 is fine, although I am trying without it this week just to see if it matters - so far, no.
Bottom line, you're not going to be able to run what the big dogs run. That's why this phone doesn't ship with that - it's too big. That's what a phone with 2-4x the ram is for.
So it sounds like, indeed, you want a different phone.
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So, the "right way" is to not use the phone for anything that a Windows Mobile phone's supposed to be? The "right way" is to not expect to be able to run any apps that make the phone's basic functionality less slow, clunky, and unintuitive? Yes, I do run several today plugins, and I run Mobile Shell. I've tried all sorts of variations of shells and tools to make it quick and easy to access functionality I need, just as it would be if I were using a normal phone. No combination makes it better. But I bought a Windows Mobile phone so that I could install and use various applications on it that make my life easier. I wasn't aware that the phone would, in fact, be completely worthless if I tried to run most of them. Considering many of these were available when the Mogul launched, I think it's reasonable to expect it to run them. If I wanted a phone that was only usable with what it shipped with, I wouldn't have bought a Windows Mobile phone, as standard phones are far faster and more reliable at running their built-in apps.