[lipidfats]

i dont know how december came into the picture...
i've heard a couple different people saying the touch pro was delayed (there are discussions going on about this on two separate threads)... to 11/2, not december. releasing in december seems rather silly. they need to get the phone out there for both november and december.
i'm still going by oct 19 until sprint officially announces something, but if i was going to believe rumors of a delay, i'd go with november 2nd and not a day later.