I have been at this fow a while.
newer releases of manila on the site did nothing to help with speed for the apache.
It all depends on available Program memory
Apache always uses 25 or more, leaving you with 20 or less.
manila2D uses up at least 10 with necesary prog added.
if you have less than 8meg mem then it will crawl or not be able to open pics or music.
I dont undertand how mogul owners get it going unless they hav more program mem.
my next step is to see which 6.1 kitchen will give me more mem to run it .
looks like Helmi has most available Program mem so going to cook it now with that .
no sleep for me