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Originally Posted by electronicrice
While I understand that they do this for free, what I don't understand is the fact that we have so much time in between builds, given the fact that for a long while we were getting steady updates and bug-fixed builds for our phones.
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Try actually taking the time to fix stuff instead of *****ing about it, and you'll see why it sometimes takes more time than others. We make releases when we feel there is enough changes to warrant a new release. Sometimes that's quickly, sometimes not.
[QUOTE=electronicrice;387333]What my problem is is that while DCD continues to focus on the community and produce builds of WM to help make our phone better, faster and bug-free, while giving us the bleeding edge, no2chem, for months, has been focusing more on his own applications both for perceived functionality and as replacements of core windows applications, which are being implemented in future PPCKitchen versions, without the options of removal.[/qoute]
First, No2Chem can do whatever he wants to do. If you don't like it, to bad. Second, No2Chem's work benefits his roms and many other users. Sorry you'd like him to do something you appreciate better, but making your device more useable doesn't always mean porting a new rom. Third, you are really stretching when you talk about things being implemented in PPCKitchen kitchens without the option of removal (it doesn't happen to any significant extent, and the extent to which it does happen happens just as much w/ any other kitchen, DCD included). Tell me a no2chem app that's built in and why you'd be better off with it removed.
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Originally Posted by electronicrice
This focus is a huge shift from what the kitchen idea was and has taken a considerable amount of time away from producing/porting newer versions of the WM builds.
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Really? You can't seriously think that bringing No2Chem's apps/roms to the kitchen is not in keeping with PPCKitchen's goals or takes away from the kitchen idea. Furthermore, just because you don't see updates for your device doesn't mean kitchens for other devices haven't been worked on. Titan's aren't the only phones in the world.
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Originally Posted by electronicrice
I'm not bitter; as I said I'm disappointed. One guy at xda has been giving regular updates with newer builds of a program that a team of developers here have taken months to produce, and are still behind.
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And now you have crossed into insanity. Are you using PPCGeeks_OEM.rar? I bet so. Does DCD maintain some 16 kitchens? No. Does DCD maintain kitchens for 6 different devices? No. Does DCD write software for you to use on your device to make it more useable as No2Chem does? No. Does DCD write tools to improve your rom building experience? No. Does DCD do things like make unlockers (ImCokeMan) or run help rooms for people who have borked their phones? No. Does DCD work on adding support for new devices? No. DCD has done some good work, but it is hardly on the scale of PPCKitchen or even No2chem.
Besides, who said we're behind? Just because we didn't release 20273 doesn't mean we didn't do it or even release some portions of it. Despite your opinion of how much better 20273 is over 20270, your actual testing of similarly configured roms is non-existent. 20273 is not significantly better than 20270. It's certainly not better enough to divert the time it takes to release it from other activities we have going on.
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Originally Posted by electronicrice
And mind you, they have received A LOT of donations for their work, so while they're not being a paid a salary for it, they're being compensated quite well. If you don't believe that, take a look at PPCKitchen.org and tally the names of users who have donated money, more or less around the $5 range. And that's not even counting the donations just to no2chem himself. If that's not enough to keep interest in providing the community with new rom development at regular intervals then that's disappointing in itself.
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Who said that list was people who donated money? I can assure you it isn't. You'd do better begging on a street corner.