that's it... thanks much
BTW, if you enter an e-mail address with the "gmail.com" it will automatically select POP3, and not let you change it.
Also if you open a new account with the gmail domain it will not display the "try to get e-mail settings automatically from the internet." checkbox, making it impossible to enter the info manually, unless of coarse you mis-spell gmail in your e-mail address field in step 1
...then you see the checkbox and can enter the rest manually.
cheers