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Re: dcd's titan ROMs & kitchen 3.2.5

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Bugs like certain programs not functioning with the new builds, the top task bar not showing up or disappearing, the extra space at the bottom of the screen that can't be used. The app buttons not being mapped. Various other bugs that pop up and stay between builds. I know that some of these require a lot more research and fixes than normal because they've been ported from other devices, but it seems the time is being spent otherwise on integrating nue apps into WM (and not allowing them to be removed) that don't appeal to all users.

Upon using DCD's kitchen and previous builds of ppckitchen, I have never needed to use his modifications of critical apps. The phone has functioned fine and I don't see why they MUST be included in the final product other than gaining some street cred.
Most of these were inherent issues with 20226. The nue apps that are integrated are probably in your DCD rom as well (they're more like tweaks than they are "new"). You should find that just about all nue products are user selectable since 19588. pre-19588 kitchens had heavy involvement w/ no2chem because he was willing and DCD wasn't. DCD is welcome to rejoin the party at any time.

That being said, your issue is ridiculous. DCD forces you to use his tweaks and app modifications when you use his kitchen. The extent to which we choose to integrate modifications is no different.

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The purpose of the kitchen was to allow users to customize what THEY wanted to add into their ROMs, not be forced to use someone else's program because it was deemed necessary for their benefit.
You're not seriously going to state that DCDs kitchen is more flexible with a broader set of choices than PPCKitchen's, are you?

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I have always appreciated your work and I still do, but I feel that it's gone a little downhill. The kitchens are being released with many obvious bugs relatively quickly, compared to the initial released of the Titan kitchen, which was supposedly highly tested, and forcing users to use apps they may not want, regardless if they're essential modifications.

Not attacking anyone, but that's my opinion and that's why I've moved to DCD's offerings.
Yes, 20226 turned out to suck. 20270 is far superior. Most of the major issues in 20226 and 20270 kitchens were from problems caused by shifts in how we do things in order to make a common kitchen base for multiple platforms and to optionize things like No2Chems apps. While there have been some initial hurdles to overcome, most issues have been resolved as of the 7/30/08 release of BuildOS, device cores, and 20270.

As you stated, the purpose of a kitchen is to let you pick what you want and don't want. PPCKitchen is proud to offer you the premier kitchen environment and the most flexible and broad kitchens there are.
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