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sorry I'm tired and headed out the door to work, but wanted to get some of the thougths/idea's out there... some of this is pretty deep and I can't get all my details fully thought through or reasearched yet.

does anybody know off hand wether the gps satelites are in stationary orbit like the tv sat's or do some or all "move"?
if they move, they still may disable the "public" frequence when over other parts of the works.

Originally Posted by mrmadness

Just posting a quick bulletin that comes from users a couple pages back. Many of you have questions about your GPSone chip working overseas. Here's something you all should know. Looking at Qualcomm's page about GpsOne http://www.qctconnect.com/products/gpsone.html, the chipset is GPS technology only as far as the satellites are concerned. This means it is not WAAS enabled according to their descriptions. The re963 (LBS) rather than advanced programming, seperate systems, manual points of reference etc. A problem with this is that overseas, you don't have GPS. You have EGNOS (European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service) that works Europes gps system. You also have GLONASS (GLObal'naya NAvigatsionnaya Sputnikovaya Sistema) that is the Russian version. Also in development is Galileo which is being formed by the European Union, which may replace or supplement EGNOS. So, for GpsOne users that have things setup here in the US, your programming is set for GPS service that may have WAAS for accuracy. All your programs are programmed for that. Some are programmed for your LBS capabilities to get the urban areas that satellites currently don't reach. If you're going overseas, consider getting a program that uses EGNOS or GLONASS instead of GPS with/without WAAS. Those may easily be picked up and the GpsOne chipset since they had a global market in mind (LBS for GSM). If you're relying on Delorme or other programs, you're stuck in the mud.
Also, the chipset supports 4 modes of operation. 3 of these modes involve having towers available for LBS accuracy. Only one is left for standalone sky only service. Nothing is posted describing how this chipset works, but I would assume it is set to automatically determine the best solution for it's fix. This means that if the chip detects towers are available, it will use them. If not, it won't. There may be some software flags that can be sent to the chipset telling it what to do/look for. If I were programmers, I would be for determining what the interface to the chip is. If there is a set of software flags that can enable/disable the LBS modes, this should help in streamlining how the chip starts up and how fast it does it.
Hopefully this helps some and sparks ideas in others.

wow, that's a read... thanks

Originally Posted by Stevevo

I've done everything that is posted and my unit still won't fix. I get 12 satalites that show up with differing numbers inside the boxes with the satalite number under them but I have left it for almost an hour and no lock but it does show that it is scrolling. I went to shut it off, The GPS Viewer and it actually lit up the boxes in blue but when I restarted it did not show them filled. What do I need to do to get it to fix? I have Com4 chosen and then just hit the open GPS and it scans for sats.

Originally Posted by Stevevo

Okay Today I got the reg editor installed and changed the 4 settings for disabling power managment and went back outside and within a couple minutes had 5 fixes on the satellites. I then opened Google Maps and told it to use the GPS and it works great. Thank you for this.

wonders which one is the ONE for gps.

Originally Posted by JimSmith94

Schettj, where is that registry setting you changed? I'm in Poland on business until the 25th, and would like to try your change on my Titan. Do you think changing it to PL would work? Does every country have its own setting?
With the stock settings, I can only see one satellite after a half hour, and of course never get a lock. Oddly enough, I'm using iGuidance to look at the satellites, and it reboots my phone after that length of time. I don't have any maps for here, but it would help prove your point if I could at least get enough satellites to lock and show my coordinates.

I may have seen a cab floating around the vouge area's, but I try to stay out of those, and i'm running low on time. sorry you'll have to do your own search...
any body tried with a vouge? maybe the extra ram helps???

also if you haven't already tried, I think Navizon has a userbase in poland so wifi may provide an initial lock. (this works if I start navizon in a store (no gps lock) it shows me at my last location and reports no lock. but if i turn on wifi (and had previously mapped one that's signal reaches or is in the store...) I get a lock (street outside) when I walk out the door, it jumps to my REAL location.
also sometimes if I don't have wifi on when in a store sometimes my gps won't work until a reboot (have not recreated/tested to a science for exact situation) but suppors my theory that the phone does the "lock" proccessing and is therefore limited by it's capablilites and not the gps chips.

Originally Posted by schettj

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333275
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS

Note, the phone that worked in the UK was the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser - which uses Quick GPS) not the Mogul (Titan, which does not) - which apparently for whatever reason may be hamstrung to only lock in the US

so it sounds like your back stateside? when you were there did you try to change the setting back to US settings? just trying to find out what's in the yellow hat, not that you probly had too much time to monkey around...