I bought a touch in november and I pretty much did everything I could do to it as far as installing apps and it is a great phone. I just got the instinct, while not being a pda phone, it can do alot of things. I hope their will be community support for it so it can be customized to my liking. It doesnt have windows mobile so i dont know. Anyway, if it does not get hacked, I still have my touch to mess with.