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Re: Oh No! Is anyone with 3D going to Samsung S II ???

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That's exactly what I've been saying.its just data..and once I get the data I can do whatever I want as long as it complies with DRM (if used)
Wrong. We can keep going back and forth on this all night. I'll keep saying it- prove it. Do it. Show me. Or show me where anyone else has ever done it.

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As you said previously..its just data..once I get it on my pc via cable card + RF tuner I can then play it..as for playing it on TV..that is no different then hooking up a monitor..
It's just data, correct. And like all data, it has to be read by the required (read: spec) equipment.

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I never said stream from your evo 3d to pc! and yes I would get it in side by side format..then that would be transcoded to display in a way that the 3d filter works...
Your monitor needs more than a cover in order to play a 3d movie too. Unless you are talking about looking at a super glossy video that shows 2 side by side images. Like I said- show me. I'm telling you that you're wrong, you're claiming to know that you are correct. We're at a stalemate. Prove it.

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Sony makes the specs for bluray..whoever you buy from the specs comply to bluray..
So? Again, there ARE specs for it, and they are the same specs that are now used by all the cable and satellite providers. You're claiming you can get around these specs with only a simple cover glued to the front of your tv screen. I'm calling BS on that ridiculous claim and asking you to prove it.

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As I said before..the 25$ is for a cellphone sized cover..not a TV sized one...
And as I said before, you need a lot more than a cover in order to make 3D work. That is according to the official required specs for 3D. You keep claiming otherwise, so prove it already. Show me this magical cover and the company's claim that it is ALL you need in order to make your tv 3D, and compatible with all the cable and satellite providers, bluray 3D players, and 3D AV receivers..

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The TV is not doing the processing in this case..my pc is...and yes I guarantee you I can get a 3D stream via Display Port or DVI for gear that support it...
Prove it then. Show me. I am calling BS on it. And I am absolutely positive that once you attempt it, you will realize just how wrong you were.

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you asked me for a bluray player.not a 3d one...
Well I figured since we were discussing 3D, it was common sense that I was referring to a 3D bluray player.

Vaporware. It's still in preorder status almost a year after the date on that blog post. It will never see the light of day. Why? Because it doesn't meet the required specs that they have to meet in order to get licensed bluray 3D support.

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Ok, you gave me a link yourself trying to prove that its not possible and that link people said it is possible and did it...and claimed the problem was on comcasts end..
No, I gave you a link to a bunch of people who could NOT get it to work. SOME of them got ONE channel to work. NONE of them got EVERYTHING working, and some of them NEVER got ANYTHING to work. And, again, these guys were using real equipment and real 3D tv's. They weren't trying to connect their computer to the cable line and route it to a 2D tv with some magical sheet glued to the front of it that supposedly makes it 3D. They had HDMI connections to a real 3D tv. The only reason whatsoever that they had any trouble at all was because the cable card they were using would not activate correctly since they were using a Tivo. Now imagine that cablecard on a PC, connected using some rigged (not HDMI) connection, to a 2D tv with a magical cover glued to the front. lol, good luck with that. .

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I already proved to you that it was done with the link that you gave..so you have yet to prove otherwise...
What do you mean I have yet to prove otherwise? Not ONE person in that link was using a magical screen cover on a 2D tv. Not ONE of them was using a PC in the manner you are talking about. Nice try at twisting facts though.

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As I said its only 25$ for cellphone size..and Im not going to waste money to prove a fact...
No need to. We both know the fact here is that it would NOT work.

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See this is where your skipping what the person said..he said he got a black screen on his Tivo..so he got a box from comcast directly and tried it and it gave him an error telling him he needs an activation code...he then called comcast, got the code and activated it..then took out the box and put his cable card tivo and it worked..so the problem was never the cable card tivo...and he said you dont need to get the cable box from comcast, just need to get the code and it works, afterwards people tried it and confirmed it worked...
I am not skipping anything. Again, I said from the start the problem was when Comcast tried to activate that cable card. And again, it worked just fine on 2D, the only problem was with the 3D.

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so stop twisting what people say to prove your point...
Says the guy who just posted a link to a 2D bluray player as some sort of proof that you don't need HDMI for 3D bluray...

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I just said that you can get a 25$ screen for cellphones and monitors...as for TVs I clearly said its easier to just buy a 3D tv...
Bull. If you think it's easier to just buy a 3D tv, then what the heck are you arguing for several pages for?

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As I told you 100x it relies on the GPU...
It relies on more than that. You can't just connect your computer to your tv and it suddenly plays PAL videos. You can't just connect your computer to your tv and it suddenly has the resolution and refresh rate to play 3D videos. And you can't just connect your computer to your tv and it suddenly knows how to handle a side by side video.

That's twice you posted a link to a bluray player that has been in preorder status for a year. Like I said earlier in this post- it's vaporware. It will never see the light of day. Unless they modify it to actually meet the required spec, it won't ever be released.

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Display port:

DisplayPort v1.2 finalized: 3D, multi-monitor & USB/ethernet support - SlashGear

its a competitor to HDMI and does 3D >.>
It doesn't do 3D with Satellite, cable, bluray, or any AV receivers. You might be able to format some video file stored on your hard drive and get it to play, but you won't be watching live 3D tv with it.

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And to show it off here is proof that this setup is easily possible:


Cool: 3D Blurays using Media Center - WITHOUT a 3d TV - Australian Media Center Community
Yes but they are using active shutter glasses and a sync module to sync them, on a computer monitor which has the required resolution and refresh rate. Not at all the same thing as putting some magical cover on a regular tv screen with nothing else.

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All the filter does is remove need for glasses to make it glasses free 3d...
No. BS. Show me. There is no cover you can put on your tv that will make it suddenly 3D compatible. If there was such a magical cover, everyone would buy one for their 70 inch tv instead of spending 5 grand + on a smaller 3D tv.
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