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Originally Posted by gTen
ok I see where you are confused..its the other way around..its not that 3D spec requires HDMI, its that HDMI is compatible with multiple 3D specs..but that does not mean HDMI is the only one that is compatible with other specs...HDMI is used on the consumers end.but both the RF cable and satellite are able to transmit 3d content...
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No they don't, lol. They transmit data that is later converted to a 3D video. You can't connect your tv into a cable line and get a 3D channel without a receiver. Why? Because they aren't sending a 3D video stream. They are sending something else that is later converted.
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When I send the data from my pc its in a container..and it displays visually same thing that is displayed on the screen..
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Good luck getting a PS3, bluray player, directv box, cable box, or anything else for that matter, to send a 3D video stream to your PC. And if you somehow get it to, good luck sending that 3D video stream to your tv.
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Think of it equivalent to taking 3d content from your evo 3d and placing it on your pc and playing it..even though your monitor is 2d it still plays it...
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Wrong again. The Evo 3D does not stream 3D video to my pc. Yes, I can manually transfer a video file to my PC (and my PC won't know what to do with it so it won't play it properly). I could probably force my computer to play it anyway, but I would be left with 2 images side by side (the same as the Evo 3D review videos where they forced their computer to play the 3D videos). So even if you put some screen cover on your tv, your tv would still need to be programmed somehow to know how to process the 3D videos. But if I connect my Evo to my computer it will not stream a 3D video to it.
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Originally Posted by gTen
pop quiz..who invented bluray?
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Sony. So? Go buy a Panasonic bluray player and it won't work either.
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Bluray is the popular format yes..but china dumped bluray for their own CBHD, which also has 3d movies...
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So? Are you planning on moving to China or something? The fact of the matter is, if you are going to convert your tv to 3D, you need a lot more than a $25 cover for the screen, as you ridiculously claimed.
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Originally Posted by gTen
As I said before, there are multiple 3D specs, HDMI is just one of the compatible interfaces that supports most of the 3d specs(not all)..its not a requirement!
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It absolutely is too a requirement. Like I said, prove it. Go get a bluray player, cable box, satellite receiver, PS3, or whatever, and see if you can connect it via any other means other than HDMI and get a 3D signal to display. I already know the answer to this. You keep giving your best guess and pretending it's a fact, but it's not. It's your best guess, and it's wrong. I own a 3D tv and I am telling you, you're wrong. Go find anyone else that owns one and see if they agree with you. The TV has to know how to process the video. And the device sending the video to it has to know that it is sending the correct format.
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Originally Posted by gTen
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That does not say it's compatible with 3D bluray. This one does:
Amazon.com: Panasonic DMP-BDT210 Integrated-Wi-Fi 3D Blu-ray DVD Player: Televisions & Video
Nice try, but not quite there yet. Even if that was compatible with 3D bluray (which I'm almost positive it is not or else it would say) there is not a tv around that would connect to it and accept a signal from it.
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Originally Posted by gTen
He only had 1 channel...or at least cared for 1 channel..since he got 1 channel working that is already proof anyways, you have yet to prove otherwise where a person got 1 channel to work but not another...
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I have yet to prove? LOL! How about you prove something. I can say without a doubt that you have never used ANY 3D device, EVER. You are here talking out of your rear end and claiming it's a fact. I posted a link showing you many, many people who were actually using a 3D tv having all kinds of problems getting it to work through a series of devices that probably actually meet the 3D spec- certainly a lot closer to meeting it than your proposed setup. And you are somehow clinging to that as some kind of proof that your setup will work? LOL! All I can tell you is to prove it. Go buy your $25 cover for your tv, subscribe to the 3D channels from the cable company, and post a video of it working. We both know that won't happen. We both know that CAN'T happen. But you seem to like to argue so you refuse to admit it.
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First of all I am not going to buy 3D gear since I don't plan on using it..its a waste of money...
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What 3D gear? You said all you need is a $25 cover for your tv and your PC will do the rest. Backtracking now?
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And again the trouble they had was on comcasts end and the fact that people doing the activation were prob as helpful as sprint reps...its not their setups fault..
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It absolutely WAS their setup's fault. If you read the thread, the way the problem got solved was by using a Comcast box- which then gave the option to subscribe to the channels.
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now that thats out of the way, last I checked we were debating on:
1) If cable card works for all programming 2d and 3d
2) Whether or not HDMI is required for 3D.
3) Whether or not HDMI 1.4 is required..
4) Whether or not a pc can take 3d signals and display it with a cover
lets not merge the debate topics as each is its own thing...so lets try to get some out of the way...
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Uh, no. None of that is a debate, those are undisputable facts. The debate was if people cared about 3D or not, and you twisted it into some nonsense about converting a tv into 3D using a $25 cover on the screen.
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1) Can we agree that cable card is just an authentication and is irrelevant what content is being transmitted as its just an authentication?
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Absolutely not. Because the authentication depends on the equipment being used. Yes, a cable card is for the authentication. But you are out of your mind if you don't think the equipment being used matters.
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2) I am guessing your still going to say HDMI is required...
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Yes, HDMI is absolutely required. Show me a 3D bluray player, cable box, satellite receiver, or AV receiver that is 3D compatible that doesn't have HDMI. In fact, you should promise not to post again in this thread until you do that.
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3) I think we came to an agreement here that 1.4 is not the only one capable of 3D....
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Yes it is. At least as far as bluray, cable, satellite, and AV receivers, and so on are concerned.
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4) I am guessing your gonna disagree with this too...
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No man, lol. Even the people in that link having the problems had HDMI. On SOME devices (not all) you can upgrade the firmware on a 1.3 HDMI device and make it 3D compatible. But the official spec requirement is HDMI 1.4.
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Originally Posted by gTen
so can we get 1 and 3 out of the way?
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I agree a cablecard authenticates. I disagree that it gives 3D functionality even without meeting the 3D specs. And I flat out disagree that HDMI 1.4 is not a requirement for 3D. At least as far as bluray, cable, satellite, and AV receivers are concerned (AKA all the ways people get 3D movies and tv programming). And I also maintain that simply putting a screen cover on your tv won't make it a 3D tv.