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Originally Posted by orangekid

I don't know if I agree with the whole "SGS2 is faster than iPhone 4" bit, we've already established that the Evo3D/Sensation aren't as smooth/fast/etc.. and only offer dual-core pros such as 1080p video playback and such.

Don't compare an SGS 2 to a Evo3d/Sensation...the smoothness of the SGS2 has no comparison to anything else...and if you read around the web its very high rated by reviewers...and if benchmarks is your thing..the SGS2 scored 2x higher on most benchmarks...

I'll have to play with an SGS2 and that TW4 launcher before I decide that.

TW4 launcher is very light..someone ported TW4 as a flash-able zip that any phone can use..there is also an apk version but has some features missing...

And unlike sense framework as I said, Samsung includes cpu optimization in the framework..(this is a big advantage when you make your own CPUs...)

But yeah, I'll agree that either phone flashed with CM7/CM8 (when ICS comes out) will blow the iPhone4 out of the water, and I see where you're going, but when is the SGS2 hitting the US market again? The iPhone5 is slated for a sept release and will basically outperform any dual-core Android phone for a year till the quad-cores hit the scene, so I guess if the SGS2 hits US market in 2 weeks, they'll have an entire 6 week head start...

Well depends you can use an international SGS2 on AT&T network from day 1...and SGS 3 will come out in first quarter of 2012...Even without CM7/8 SGS2 is top notch..biggest thing that was slowing down the original SGS was their use of RFS file system...RFS is no more so you get pure speed!

And if you put a car battery on your phone and 5 solar panels and maybe glue a windmill to it so it competes with the iPhone built-in then that's fine, but personally I like being able to keep my phone in my pocket or being able to put a case on my phone that doesn't have to accommodate an extra thick battery rear case.

Not really.. there are many new ways to get energy..not just solar..

like radio signals:

Georgia Tech engineers pull energy out of atmospheric hat, go on electromagnetic scavenger hunt -- Engadget

or this:

Researchers develop tiny, autonomous piezoelectric energy harvester -- Engadget


or if your into solar there is a new way to make cheap solar panels that will double energy efficiency:

Nanocones make solar cells more efficient, sinister looking -- Engadget

or better yet tech like this:

Mizzou Professor says nantenna solar sheet soaks up 90 percent of the sun's rays, puts sunscreen to shame -- Engadget

and

Solar-Piezoelectric Hybrid Fiber Could Create Energy-Generating Clothes | Ecouterre

And there are large companies actually working on standards for energy harvesting:

ZigBee Alliances developing Green Power standards for energy harvesting devices -- Engadget


..give it 5 more years and I guarantee you we will have a cellphone that is cell sufficient...

But right now, the iPhone is king of battery power, and will be for some time. And the fact that iOS doesn't need the gpu to run the UI shows again how well coded it is because I don't see that the TW4 framework is any better than iOS5 unless you add LWPs into the mix.

Overall though I'd take an SGS2 flashed with CM7/CM8 over iOS5.

umm..android smartphones are not GPU accelerated UI yet...dont remember if honeycomb is or not off the top of my head...so SGS2 is fairly smooth with no GPU accelerated UI...

And thing is...the original Galaxy S with Gingerbread, Touchwiz and EXT4 actually beats Stock/CM7/Nexus S in terms of speed lol..thats how much of a difference the framework makes...

so what you really want is CM7/8 + TouchWiz Framework port...then you will see speeds beyond your wildest imagination...

Also people have been reporting really awesome battery life on the SGS2...

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/...-battery-life/

summary: 20 hours of battery(it was at 15% after 20 hours) with 10 hours of actual use and push notifications! gmail and twitter on! and wifi on! this is for stock..no undervolting or optimization!!!! or increased battery size..