hm, i decided to settle with WM 6.1 with the start menu fix, thanks for the link
ironically, I only wanted 6.1 for the start menu lol, I'm using throttle launcher as my today/home screen. Now I'm looking for a lighter 6.1 rom that I can install throttlelauncher and have nothing else on it.
going to take me a while for me to find things I need but I'm going to enjoy the time i get to learn about this phone