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Re: Evo 4g/Evo 3D

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The Thunderbolt benches higher than the Evo. And there will absolutely be a difference in the Sensation and Evo 3D. It's unbelievable that you would try to dispute this.
Wait..are you trying to compare a 2nd gen 1.2ghz snapdragon with an adreno 205 to a 1st gen 1ghz snapdragon with an Adreno 200 and call it a ram thing?

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You keep missing the point. That 1.3 MB test is NOT the only process running. Run that test on a Sense phone that only has 5 MB of RAM. Now run that same 1.3 MB test on a Sense phone that has 512 MB of RAM. Try to explain to me why the results would be even remotely similar. They wouldn't be. And a phone with 25% more RAM will run it faster too.
its obvious 1.3mb is not the only process running..but other processes running only bottle neck the benchmark by utilizing the CPU/GPU or accessing the ram..the quantity of ram is irrelevant as long as enough is free to run the app and the necessary android processes.

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And my educated guess is none of those tests mean anything yet. For one thing, like I posted, I saw a test that actually scored the Galaxy S2 higher even though it took longer to run the test. And for another thing, the Evo 3D will absolutely bench better than the Sensation anyway.
I showed you that video..the reason for what you saw was Quadrant..what happens is the video was skipping frames hence finished faster...it didnt render all the frames..and got a lower score because it couldnt match the sgs 2 on its 60fps...and sensation and evo 3d will bench around the same +/- margin of error.

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There is also a 3rd option- the phones had other differing factors that influenced the tests. You act like just because they both had a Tegra 2 that everything else was identical with the only difference being the resolution.
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They werent the same...I only presented preliminary date of my research..that said Tegra 2 is a SoC similar to the snapdragon..aka they msot liekly had same motherboards, same processor and etc...the benchmark results were just too close accross multiple devices to call it a coincidence..anyways..if you want we can drop this point..as I said before its preliminary data..

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Again- resolution is every bit as big a factor as fps, and dithering. We kNOW the Sensation is running at a significantly higher resolution. This is not an educated guess, but a documented fact. So common sense tells us that you will have less fps at qhd than you will at wvga.
I am not arguing with that..I am arguing about smartbenches ability as a benchmark to account for that...my goal originally was to od a calculation of % wise the difference between a qhd and a wvga using the same SoC and used the Tegra 2 as its only one atm that fits the bill and found results similar..

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Yes I am disputing all of those tests at this point. Unless you have 2 identical phones, then the tests lose value for each difference. Like I said, common sense tells us that qhd rendering will have a lower fps than wvga rendering. And if the OS and test aren't utilizing the dual cores, then it loses even more value. And even then, the Evo 3D was not even the phone in the test. It was a Sensation that has lower specs, and likely a worse bench than the Evo 3D. When these phones are released I'm sure we'll start to see some tests that more accurately put them against each other. But when I see a phone finish the test significantly faster, yet score significantly worse, I am not going to trust that test.
Your talking about quadrant and linpack..in comparison smartbench is a much better benchmark...smartbench unlike quadrant uses both cores, wvga and qhd has no effect on productivity score, thats gaming score...again sensation will benchmark the same..look up htc incredible and htc evo and you will see..

We can wait till it comes out I dont mind, but the results will be the same..you cant change reality with delusion..
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