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Originally Posted by gTen

It wont terminate a process thats running front end...in the background yes..not on your screen..that gets full allocation attention..both the evo 3d and sensation have new sense...there will be no difference between benchmarks of evo 3d and sensation..this has been proven by HTC Incredible and the Evo having virtual the same benchmarks...

The Thunderbolt benches higher than the Evo. And there will absolutely be a difference in the Sensation and Evo 3D. It's unbelievable that you would try to dispute this.

Originally Posted by gTen

Um...hero is a REALLY bad example..its not even a cortex A8 phone...again sense does effect performance..but the effect is equal throughout both phones..on a benchmark that only takes up 1.3mb it has no effect...when comparing sensation to the Evo 3d..

You keep missing the point. That 1.3 MB test is NOT the only process running. Run that test on a Sense phone that only has 5 MB of RAM. Now run that same 1.3 MB test on a Sense phone that has 512 MB of RAM. Try to explain to me why the results would be even remotely similar. They wouldn't be. And a phone with 25% more RAM will run it faster too.

Originally Posted by gTen

I am basing this on available data..I am not putting this up as a FACT..mearly an educated guess...

And my educated guess is none of those tests mean anything yet. For one thing, like I posted, I saw a test that actually scored the Galaxy S2 higher even though it took longer to run the test. And for another thing, the Evo 3D will absolutely bench better than the Sensation anyway.

Originally Posted by gTen

This is normally the case yes..but as I said there are 2 senarios that are also possible:

1) Smartbench takes into account resolution when doing its calculation

or

2) Tegra 2 really renders at a higher resolution then qHD then rescales it down to a lower resolution.

There is also a 3rd option- the phones had other differing factors that influenced the tests. You act like just because they both had a Tegra 2 that everything else was identical with the only difference being the resolution.

Originally Posted by gTen

There are more to this then even resolution..there is also dithering for example...Tegra 2 and previous snapdragon dithered at 16bit, while hummingbird dithered at 24bit..

Also keep in mind that the Gaming score was calculated on the SGS2 while being limited to 60fps...

Again- resolution is every bit as big a factor as fps, and dithering. We kNOW the Sensation is running at a significantly higher resolution. This is not an educated guess, but a documented fact. So common sense tells us that you will have less fps at qhd than you will at wvga.

Originally Posted by gTen

And just so we are clear, your not disputing the Productivity score? correct?

Yes I am disputing all of those tests at this point. Unless you have 2 identical phones, then the tests lose value for each difference. Like I said, common sense tells us that qhd rendering will have a lower fps than wvga rendering. And if the OS and test aren't utilizing the dual cores, then it loses even more value. And even then, the Evo 3D was not even the phone in the test. It was a Sensation that has lower specs, and likely a worse bench than the Evo 3D. When these phones are released I'm sure we'll start to see some tests that more accurately put them against each other. But when I see a phone finish the test significantly faster, yet score significantly worse, I am not going to trust that test.