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Originally Posted by gTen
Again I am saying nothing is impossible to root and get a custom rom on.. remember the ps3 was said to be unhackable and got hacked...its a matter of having a strong enough community, resources and time.
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Again, there are several motorola devices that right now can't have a custom ROM. Devices that are already past their end of life, so nobody even cares about them anymore. Meaning they went their entire regular life cycle without anyone figuring out how to put a custom ROM on there. That has never happened with HTC. Most HTC phones are rooted before they are even released.
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Originally Posted by gTen
All I am saying is as HTC has been growing bigger they have been changing..its nothing new..I mean a year ago most people would not have seen M$ doing what they did with WP7..yet they did..you cant tell me a Hero for example is same rooting method that an Evo...and we know G2 has the new recovery thing going..its indisputable that they are increasing it...and we dont know by how much...this doesnt mean that we wont be able to root it..it just makes it a bigger pain.
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I don't know about the Hero and what they used to root it (was on a Touch Pro 2 back then) but I know the Evo, Thunderbolt, and G2 are all rooted the same way. And the recovery being locked on the G2 is no different than the recovery on the Evo or Thunderbolt being locked. All were rooted using the same technique, and nobody had to wait for it on any of those devices.
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Originally Posted by gTen
But so do the manufacturers...but they dont put signed bootloaders to begin with.
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Motorola does. I don't know who else does or doesn't, but I know HTC is certainly not the only ones. HTC does give the key to unlock it though (they "leak" it at least in the form of a "test" recovery image).
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Originally Posted by gTen
um..you do know that the first Gingerbread leak for the Galaxy S was in February..thats even before nexus one got gingerbread..by the time Evo got its first leak, Gingerbread already hit official release on the Galaxy S.
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Yes, I know that the Gingerbread leak for the Galaxy S was on February 28. I also know there is a ROM on this very site for the Evo running the newest Sense. And that ROM was last updated on February 23. So they not only had the files before then, but they the files long enough before then to have a ROM compiled for the Evo that was good enough to not even be updated since February 23. I also know the Desire's Gingerbread ROM leaked out a week later, March 7.
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Originally Posted by gTen
HTC was effectively one of the only choices for winmo and android for a huge amount of time..and as early devices were easy to hack thus spur the growth...back when xda first came out, HTC didnt even release phones under their own brand...
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I'm not disputing any of that. What I am disputing is your claim that HTC is no longer friendly to the hacking community. They most definitely are. It's hillarious that you would even make such a claim when every HTC phone is hacked, mostly before they are even released.
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Originally Posted by gTen
The devices that are unhackable are older gen and just didnt have the community to support them..if we wanted to we could hack them...trust me...also it took months to get custom roms on a G2...
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Wrong again, lol. Yes, there are older gen devices that were never able to have custom ROMs, but there are newer devices that still can't have them (Motorola Bravo).
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Originally Posted by gTen
The thunderbolt took 72 hours to root after it came out...thats not next day...I am not saying that itll be impossible but I guarantee you its going to get harder and harder by trend..
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Wrong again, lol. TRhe Thunderbolt was rooted before it was even released. See this, dated 3-18-2011, with instructions on how to do it (the device started shipping 3-17-11):
[Exclusive] How To Root The HTC Thunderbolt – Instructions By Team AndIRC (V1.02 2011/03/1
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Release date info:
HTC Thunderbolt Release Date Here - Verizon... | Gather
Lets revisit how this all got started... Someone said they would not preorder the device because they thought it might not get rooted. I said that was not anything that I'm worried about. You then said we should be worried about it. It appears that you now concede the device will be rooted, either before it is released or in very short order after it is released.