[eric12341]

Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1

well ya quoted me with his post so....

it was an accident. I'll go back and edit it

Originally Posted by orangekid

eric,


my point was that iOS and Android slaughter WP7 and why, BUT that it's not fair to say that is is a fair comparison based on the age of the OS. Also you failed to notice that I was giving more of a post Mango idea of the operating systems and outlining more general differences in the usage and purpose of each OS.

fyi "self contradictory" is redundant since a contradiction in nature refers to someone's present statement/action not agreeing with an earlier statement/action by the same individual.

eric,

my point was that iOS and Android slaughter WP7 and why, BUT that it's not fair to say that is is a fair comparison based on the age of the OS. Also you failed to notice that I was giving more of a post Mango idea of the operating systems and outlining more general differences in the usage and purpose of each OS.

fyi "self contradictory" is redundant since a contradiction in nature refers to someone's present statement/action not agreeing with an earlier statement/action by the same individual.


as to the supposed security of WP7 over Android and iOS, wasn't it just a few weeks ago that someone hacked into and found a way to, with one click, download any app (paid of free) onto their WP7 phone and easily circumvent MS's "security" and pirate apps, then shared the exploit with MS?

being utterly locked down, not allowing devs the APIs they need to develop more awesome apps, and guard-dogging the marketplace isn't actually safer in any practical sense. An iPhone, even with ASLR and a locked OS, can still be hacked into. A WP7 device could easily be circumvented and so can the marketplace by a very experienced hacker.

I do agree with Darren that WP7 is off to a good start, no OS starts out perfect, Android and iOS still have flaws, but right now they are the better choice.

In two years let's talk, I may just have a phone that ONLY runs WP7 instead of one that runs WP7, Android, and WM6.5.3

iOS and Android arent even real, they werent built from code or kernels that were solely invented by themselves. wp7 is based off winCE6.0 (soon to be based off windows embedded compact 7) it was built entirely by MS without using anyone else's kernel. android was built based off linux (which makes linux-lunatics love it too) and also with STOLEN java code from oracle. they know they did this no matter how much they and all the other fandroids and linux-lunatics out there may deny it. and iOS was built off the same principle as OS X which is based off unix, theses OSes are NOT even original. the point is u did contradict urself by saying that it wasnt fair to compare them then u go on and compare them. what kinda desamadre is that eh?and as for apps, im seeing many great apps that werent previously for WM that were also on android and iOS that are on wp7 so i dont know where u get that from and most of the apps in that app store are more than likely repetitive anyway. the reason for such apps is to justify the browsers lack of power to access real webpages and once IE9 mobile comes out it will blow both the android and iOS browsers out of the water (just like IE9 desktop is currently doing with chrome,firefox and safari).

Originally Posted by mindfrost82

I have both a Surround and a Nexus One with Gingerbread. I've used a few Android phones and easily recommend them to people. I've gotten quite a few people to switch to Android, even a few iPhone users and they couldn't be happier.

With that said, when I use my Surround, I usually can't wait to go back to Android just because I'm more productive with it. WP7 still needs to grow and get more apps.

I love it as a music device (assuming you can get used to Zune Desktop) and for the XBox Live games. I like that you can already stream Netflix on it, which you can't do with Android yet. The tiles don't really both me and get their job done. As more apps come out, scrolling through them will become more tedious since it lists each app on a single line.

No WP7 phone seems to have LED notifications yet (oddly enough though, I heard that the port to the HD2 has them). The Surround has it for missed calls, but not emails/SMS, which I don't understand. For advertising that you can "get in and get out", it seems pointless to have to turn the screen on every time just to check for messages instead of just looking for a flashing LED.

Editing Office docs is nothing like it was on WM. You can't sync them through Zune and there's no mass storage. You can't edit them on the "cloud" (SkyDrive) yet either. So all you can do is email it to yourself.

Facebook integration is pretty nice for regular status updates, but you still need the app if you want to read/reply to messages.

Other things I miss are offline TTS navigation (like Navigon/TomTom/iGo/etc). Bing Maps looks nice but is hardly functional as a navigation device like Google Maps is.

My Surround also doesn't have a 2G/3G toggle, which can come in handy on At&t/T-Mobile. There's also no "WiFi always-on" like there is on Android. The only time it comes on is when the screen is on, so you can use more wireless data than you can on Android.

Also some of the good Android games aren't available yet, like Andry Birds. Word With Friends also just came out for Android and you can even play iPhone users...it would be nice if they released it for WP7 too and you could play all 3 platforms. They Have AlphaJax and some other one, but you can only play it with other WP7 users.

Like someone else said, no WiFi tether yet either.

With all that though, I think MS has a great start if they play their cards right. Would I recommend it to someone? It depends on that person's needs and what they're coming from.

so now we are picking on wp7 because of lack of LED notifications? jaja wow i dont think iOS has them presently either, and xbox live games run circles around any iOS game so who cares about some angry birds? and besides its coming anyway, wifi isnt always on because it runs more battery but i do think u need wifi to download the pushed updates.