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Originally Posted by blackdynamite

man, the hd2 does support hspa. I have never seen anyone claim otherwise, and have no idea why you are attempting to deny this fact. It has an hspa radio (as pretty much all htc gsm phones have included ever since hspa was first being rolled out several years ago).

This is where you are just flat out wrong. The hd2 (and hd7) both have hspa radios.

Hspa+ is the upgrade path from hspa. It is backwards compatible. Any hspa device will see an increase in speed when in an hspa+ area. It might not (and probably won't) get the theoretical maximum hspa+ speeds, but it will certainly see a faster speed than if it was only in an hspa area.

This is not 2 completely different technologies that requires seperate radios like evdo and wimax. This is the official upgrade path for hspa and was made to be backwards compatible with hspa. And any gsm device that supports 3g made in the last several years will almost certainly have an hspa radio, as it has been the 3g standard for quite some time for gsm.

That is the main reason people were saying hspa+ isn't really 4g. Because hspa is 3g, and hspa+ is a backwards compatible upgrade to it and not something totally replacing it.

exactly!