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Originally Posted by skyguy04
1. Would you recommend i flash a different ROM with PP 0? Or will i see the most gains from simply replacing the startmenu and doing some other tweaks to my existing rom? If you recommend flashing a diff. rom, exactly which of Nrg's rom's would you recommend? Can i use his maxsense or is that outdated?
2. I went ahead and ran the Arto Start Menu remover as well as installed WinStart2.0beta cabs. However, the new start menu takes exactly 12 seconds to load after hitting the hard start menu button. Is this normal or should i see instant response? After replacing the start menu, i'm showing 82.35 MB free program memory and 148.28 MB free storage memory (this is after a fresh reboot). When you said 120 MB, I assume you mean program memory, correct?
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I'm sure you read this, but worth mentioning again, based on your comments about RAM shortages...
PP zero won't get you more RAM.. actually the opposite, but AFTER you've got an extra 50+MB, what the heck.. If all your after is RAM, flash with a 6, or 8 pp. But as I said in the first post, do it in the numbered order... most ram the fastest with the least "change" impact/difference to you...
So, no new ROM needed ("any ROM will work"), but as I mentioned, flashing an Energy ROM with the Start Menu Replacement Switch in settings, makes it real easy. Otherwise you used arto and then you'll probably have to use that other xbutton cab a few posts back to get your x-button back.. no worries, it's painless...
Maxsense was great in it's time, still is to many... I used it for a while last spring... outdated? hmmmm, well that depends.. the one you are still using is.. OS is certainly a zillion revisions behind & so are probably all of the individual packages within... (BT, dialer, sms, mms, etc.. etc..) However NRG was still updating till a month or two ago, so that is much newer... but think he's dumped it now.. so.. his is even outdated, newer htc packages now as well i'm guessing... one thing for sure... if he stopped updating it for good, it's only going to get older fast!
X button on bottom = 29007 (many say it's more finger friendly & on the edge (pushing the limits more) than 21xxxx), if you like it on top 21xxxx, .............. some recommend the Neo ROM as it has more free RAM than the Pluto ROM... not sure try them all !!
I'm on 29007 sencity now, with sense unchecked in settings/home... almost never use Cookie or sense (.. personally don't like the slider or bug chasing, but that's just me.. my opinion for what it matters).
He just updated the Titanium, doesn't do that often, but it's the smallest, still has all his key programs & tweeks, the startmenu switch I think etc.. As it says in post 3 of the Energy ROM thread, good for tweaking & low memory profile. It has no sense or cookie, so i'm giving that one a whirl next...
"your existing ROM"... I can't comment on that, as you didn't mention which one... and I don't know what all of their memory numbers are especially based on the fact anyone can change the pp & that changes everything..
if you're on an existing ROM, you probably have a bunch of cabs & stuff already on it... that's probably why your at 83MB. I can tell you using the Panel on Energy should put you over 90 especially if you use something like a pp of 12-14.
Yea, to remember RAM, think progRAM.
1. Startmenu replacement: 25MB
2. Sense/cookie/today/home menu replacement: 25MB
Again, these are rough numbers, many claim much more... I've seen 40MB claimed for #1. It also depends on what you replace them with!
3. Lower page pool (prior to burning ROM on TP2), lower = more RAM until you hit zero, then it's MUCH more.. like burning with a 28 pp to start.
Re. Winstart: instant!! it seems many are having issues with Winstart, I'm not, don't know why,
DUMP IT!! too many other options! My only issue with winstart is that it gets triggered too often & pops up.. i can probably fix by only mapping to hard windows key & not autostart. In my sig howto I list some startmenu replacements under VI. I believe.. "quick menu" seems to be among the stable, & most popular.. VERY low overhead on RAM. But some don't like the desktop type menus.. Panel in the Energy ROM is nice.
Here's what I see real rough, low 90's with my Energy & panel & I dump NRG's Arkswitch (startup) for another 2MB. Uncheck Sense & Windows default (Titanium)... low 120's, add any of those I list in post 1 & end up like this.. "Easy Today" around 120, ipt in the teens, SPB 100-105. Drop your pp 10 & get 10, add 10 lose 10. So if the chef makes his ROMs with a 18 pp, & you flash 8, you get more.. flash 28, less.
If you want RAM, RAM, RAM... I'd burn Energy Titanium with pp 4, switch to panel or compact startmenu (quick), reboot, uncheck Titanium in settings/home/>>items, and run Easy Today, take Arkswitch & anything else you don't want out of windows\startup & it should put you over 130MB... this summer we were seeing a bunch of ROM's in the low 50's to start!!! arrrggghhh
*edit* lol, if you really want RAM, find a barebones android boot ROM, & do what I mentioned above (arto & QM/easy/etc..)