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Re: Touch pro 7 (touch pro 3 but rename) EPIC FAIL

I would just guess that they are just pushing these phones out real fast just to get WP7 out there. Considering how similar this line up is and how much they share the same specs, I can probably assume that the phones share at least 60% of the same parts if not more.

If the phones share a lot of parts, that means they can make these 5 phones cheap and fast.

The size of the screen may have to do with the fact that W7 is only designed for that resolution (According to what I heard on the vid I saw from the news article on here.). Who knows, maybe WP7 will be able run in a higher res down the road, maybe it'll be a flop by then.

Business wise it makes sense on paper, if the phones function well with a generation old processor and you can produce them cheap, then you can profit more on the phones. Unless WP7 is upgraded at some point, bigger res and true multi-tasking, I don't see why HTC would be in any hurry to produce the phone that we all want. If the resolution never gets bigger and the phone isn't going to need a more processor for running multiple apps, then the only thing left is to make it faster for gaming.

As far as gaming is concerned, with the addition of Xbox Live I think MS is banking on people buying XBL arcade games for the phone. They can then control the development so that those games never need more processor than the phone has. In the same way that if you buy a console game, your xbox "should" never freeze because your 360's graphics card doesn't have enough RAM.

I believe that applies to all programs too. In my opinion one of the things that keeps an iphone stable is the fact that because you can't fiddle with any real settings out of the box and any software you buy through the phone is controlled and tested throughly. At the same time that's what makes it undesirable to someone like me.

It seems that they have followed suit with WP7 to squash any problems associated with the "layman" using a WinMo phone. Where as the few that we are, who need to have that adjustability and customiziblnessss (warning not real words) are left out in the cold because the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many in this case.

I know what I want in a phone, as do all of you or else you wouldn't have bought a TP2. Now that MS has moved away from an OS that can be used like a computer, there may never be any need to make the phone that we all want. Unless someone decides to make a new OS that is similiar to WinMo that is compatible with all the same functions and prgrams. Or a phone that can straight out run XP or even even Win7, hell I'd even take a phone that ran ubuntu.

I'm probably going to hold onto my TP2 as long as possible until there is a phone that is just as capable, 4g and a "neural net learning CPU" so I can build a ****ing terminator out of it if I wanted to.

".....and Santa, if you could see to it that this new phone gets a flash that would just be dandy!"

Other than the 4g, the TP2 just comes so close to being the perfect phone, I mean we were right ****ing there. I'm so glad that OC is stable now and ROMS are coming out that don't even need to be OC'd, but it would be nice to have 4G when it comes here and it would definitely be nice to have FULL internet. Not a huge deal because I can tether to my 13 inch Dell, but how long before we can't do that anymore? Just being able to tether for the couple of hours a month that I use on my plan without paying a crap ton extra is invaluable.

I completely understand why people have moved away from the TP2 in favor of something like the epic, it's a good phone, works out of the box and has basically full internet, good camera, etc. As nice as it would be to have that stuff, as a whole I (and other people on here) see it as a downgrade.

God forbid my phone should break or disappear and that there are no replacements available, at that point I would have to bite the bullet and get something else. I hate to say this, but if it doesn't look like anything else is on the horizon, I may just buy a new TP2 in the box and squirrel it away for a rainy day.

It's funny, you would think that as advanced as we are, products would be mostly state of the art, indestructible and just well made. Instead products are mostly being made as cheaply as possible and as fast as possible.
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