Hey karle I seen the simple root on xda but wasnt sure if I wanted to use it wasnt sure if it would give me full-root access or not and on the other link EVO Full Root|OTA Root|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing|for n00b's thats the one I was trien to follow seem like a good bullet proof solid way to root but cant seem to even get through the second part Ill look into the simple root a little further may even try that,thank you for your help