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Re: [ROM] ROOTROM - Sense 2.1/2.5 Landscape - SMS/MMS - Sashimi Compliant - 04/18/20

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Originally Posted by winmonewbie View Post
To the Bad Flash Deniers-Riddle me this: I flash a ROM and it doesn't work. I Dance and the ROM is fully functional.
Now, what would YOU call the first flash? A good flash?
Regardless of the cause was the flash not 'bad' thus requiring a Dance?
No, the actual flash you JUST did was not bad. it flashed everything just right if it went to 100%, something that was ALREADY on the phone from the previous rom obviously contradicted with something in the new rom, that the new rom did not replace thus causing it to not work.

EDIT: for example. say you go from CustomRomA and it has WM6.5x build 22222, and youre flashing straight to CustomRomB with WM6.5x build 33333, and you dont flash to stock before hand. when you flash to the new OS build, it has 2 files that do things very critical to the operation of the OS and their names are OSfile.aaa, and fileOS.aaa. now in the old version of the OS, OSfile.aaa did operation A. and fileOS.aaa did operation B. In the new version, OSfile.aa does operation B, and vise versa. Now lets say for some reason the chef doesnt include these files because he, himself, is flashing from a rom with the same build as the rom he is flashing to. so he doesnt see them as necessary and doesnt think of the other users (root would never do that ) so when the new rom is flashed, those to files do not operate as they should and the phone now is malfunctioning. The rom flashed correctly, but because files that were already on the phone were not what the new rom was expecting... the phone doesnt work right.

now all that said, i realize its a bad example because obviously a stock rom isnt going to have the correct files on it either, but hopefully you can see what i mean from that.
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When we flash a custom ROM, which does not include a radio, some data can be written to the radio portion of the ROM where it doesn't belong.
sorry, but i dont buy that, if it flashes data to the radio portion once, it will do it everytime, thus fuggin it up everytime.

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I can't explain why that rarely seems to happen. I've always questioned that part but never needed to find out the answer. Maybe this is the Smoking Gun the Bad Flash Deniers are waiting for?
indeed...indeed.

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I think we can all agree on a few things:

1) ANY root ROM is solid as Gibraltar

2) The Dance is not required but it certainly improves your chance of a successful experience

3) The hard resets in between flashes during the Dance are pointless time wasters.

4) There are many causes of an unsuccessful experience including but not limited to user error, corrupt SD card data or CABs/modifications that screwed with the OS.

5) If you didn't Dance and you're having issues that no one else is having then try the Dance before saying 'this ROM blows' or you may get lit up!

I'm not looking for the last word but can we lay this bad flash business to rest and continue enjoying roots great work and helping new friends get it right?
If you want to tell me I'm nuts PM me or find me on Palringo.
agreed. and now ill lay it to rest lol. this shall be my last post on the subjuect
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