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Re: [ROM] ROOTROM - Sense 2.1/2.5 Landscape - SMS/MMS - Sashimi Compliant - 04/18/20

To the Bad Flash Deniers-Riddle me this: I flash a ROM and it doesn't work. I Dance and the ROM is fully functional.
Now, what would YOU call the first flash? A good flash?
Regardless of the cause was the flash not 'bad' thus requiring a Dance? Seems to fit to me so I can't wrap my head around the notion that there is no such thing as a bad flash.

This is how I read it waaay back in nrgz thread, from the man himself. I've never claimed ownership, just makes sense in my brain.

When we flash a custom ROM, which does not include a radio, some data can be written to the radio portion of the ROM where it doesn't belong. This will jack up the ROM a little or a lot.
This is why reflashing custom wont work. Since it doesn't flash the radio, once the data is in the radio portion it's "stuck" there until we clear it out.
In my experience random soft or hard resets are classic signs of this type of bad flash, other signs can simply be weird quirks that no one else is reporting.

When we flash back to stock, the radio is flashed as well. (Provided we use a shipped ROM) This clears out the misplaced data from the radio portion of the previous ROM.
The next flash will almost always go well thus fixing the problem. Could THAT flash write to the radio portion again? I suppose and I can't explain why that rarely seems to happen. I've always questioned that part but never needed to find out the answer. Maybe this is the Smoking Gun the Bad Flash Deniers are waiting for?

I think we can all agree on a few things:

1) ANY root ROM is solid as Gibraltar

2) The Dance is not required but it certainly improves your chance of a successful experience

3) The hard resets in between flashes during the Dance are pointless time wasters.

4) There are many causes of an unsuccessful experience including but not limited to user error, corrupt SD card data or CABs/modifications that screwed with the OS.

5) If you didn't Dance and you're having issues that no one else is having then try the Dance before saying 'this ROM blows' or you may get lit up!

I'm not looking for the last word but can we lay this bad flash business to rest and continue enjoying roots great work and helping new friends get it right?
If you want to tell me I'm nuts PM me or find me on Palringo.
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