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Originally Posted by jmorton10
By the way, I know a VZ tech & he told me one of the main reasons VZ started requiring a data package on all PPCs was they got sick & tired of answering tech calls from people that just got an $1800 cell bill & where absolutely POSITIVE they had not used any data on something like their xv6800............
~John
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This actually was the reason Verizon gave to the FCC when they were questioned on this and has always been their saving face argument that a lot fall for but it has not fooled everyone.
Simply put to sell a device and with a plan that does not include a service but that can actually access this service and then blame the user for this has got be one of the biggest crocks yet.
First off as I have said, these devices themselves can so simply be set up to not access that data its not even funny.
It is a no brainer folks.
But even more so if there is anyone to blame for this it’s the carriers, if they design their system to allow something like this to happened and sell and release devices they know will do this to people who do not have this service as part of their plan but don’t know any better and end up doing this without even knowing it, then who’s fault is that?
Not the users.
So why should we have to suffer and pay for this as a result.
But even more offensive is why should the carriers profit from it???
An we all know it would be possible for them to restrict this from their side if they wanted to just like they restrict any service you don’t have in a plan, so why don’t they?
Well then they come back an say, well we need this data connection for behind the scenes updates.
Again another lie.
I myself had the data connection locked off for the entire month I was on the Verizon service and typically have it locked off even now, just as I have described, and have known many many who do the same and did so with other devices and long before it was even mandatory as they had this very thing happen and no one has ever reported any ill effects of this what so ever.
I mean yeah I suppose it could happen but as far as I know other then the Windows Mobile 6.5 update there isn’t anything else that has been updated for this device at all and that was an internet downloaded to a PC to do the update anyway, it wasn’t something you could do over the data connection.
I mean too, just as was described, one the connection is very slow and could you imagine what would happen to this device if it were downloading say a updated radio version via a data connection behind the scenes and without the users permission or knowledge and the user went into the subway for the ride home, or shut it off at night and somehow the whole thing got corrupted and it bricked the phone what that would mean.
Face it, they could never use a data connection for any updating for a whole host of reasons.
And via Microsoft they do not do even little updates or patches for the OS like they do for a PC for these things, in fact every time I have ever even tried the manual device update thing in the phone (and this was back when I had the Verizon data package) it completely failed and I have read this is the way this works for everyone and that no one even cares as there is nothing to update anyway.
An even if the ever did they would have to do it via manual updates that were hardwire connections and done when an where it was able to for a whole bunch of reasons.
Then about the only other thing that can be updated is the *228 thing and other stuff on the cellular side and that is completely on the cellular and phone side as it has always been long before there was even data and has nothing to do with anything else, especially the data connection.
Simply put if the carriers locked of the data ability on their side which they could very easily do, it would mean absolutely nothing to these devices.
Nothing.
But they don’t an then have used that to make the argument to do what they have done.
Kinda calls into question the whole theory that the company is right and the user is wrong doesn’t it.