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youngbreedant i'm not even arguing with you because you keep talking about winmo 7, nobody has even brought that up. i was only joking by comparing hd2 to g1, i already said thats the very 1st android its obviously outdated. do you see how fast you guys really wanted to make that a point. salty by you sticking up for winmo is the reason why windows needs to gain market share because its so far behind. its sad how microsoft had its foot in the door and was by far the most dominant mobile os, there is a reason its currently where its at right now with developer support and everything. like i said salty make a list of everything you expect to gain going from tp2 to hd2, its not even running 6.5 what a joke. no i haven't held a hd2 but if you think its going to be heaven sent then you are wrong. anybody going from a nexus to an hd2 will return that hardware, i gurantee it.