[chardog]

the tp2 doesnt hang with iphone in stock version. I have an iphone, and it's a snappy phone, but yeah, it does get old. I dont care much for apps and using my phone all the time; I'm primarily a business user, so that may weigh on your opinion. Programs I use the most are calendar, sms, email, and phone. For all of those, it beats the iphone. For sheer easy to use phone out the box, iphone is the clear winner.

Again, I'm a grown man, dont own an xbox360 or ps3, even though I'm a techno freak.

iphone has the best web browser I've ever used, though the TP2 is no slouch, especially with opera tweaks. Overall, I think that the TP2 has some weaknesses, but overall a better phone than the iphone.

If you're an average phone user, I think the iphone is better for you, but if you are gonna tweak the crap out of your phone, it's a tossup. Iphone has more stuff, but the TP2 does some stuff better; The speaker phone use on the TP2 is unbeatable, and I use it often to talk to my boss or clients who need help.