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Old 12-29-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Intermountain Trust View Post
i see you are giving battery advice, I have not had time to respond to your lack of research until now.
Thanks, not sure why you believe i have a lack of information. But lets shed some light here on your info.

BTW - very good info.

All current battery technology has only so many "Cycles" of charge. As i posted which you misunderstood, not "Cycles" as per a memory effect, which is what your evidence is referring to, but each time you charge i am using the term cycle. I can understand why you read the posted info and take with it a different meaning.

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There is no memory and no scheduled cycling is required to prolong the battery’s life
For example:

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The internal resistance of the Li-ion batteries cannot be improved with cycling.
these are both clearly a statement in regards to memory effect. "Cycling" as i put it is something completely different and has zero to do with capacity. We are talking about overall lifespan here.

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Repeated insertion into the charger or cradle does not affect the battery by inducing overcharge
Li-Ions cannot be overcharged due to the protection internally as i have stated. However repeated insertion will decline the overall lifespan of the battery due again to its finite amount of charges it will take. These are 2 totally different statements.

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does not require periodic full discharge
True to keep its overall output. As i have stated this in referance to a "Memory Effect". Again this in no way referances the overall amount of times the battery can be charged.

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The Li-ion is most economical for those who use a mobile phone daily. Up to 1000 charge/discharge cycles can be expected if used within the expected service life of about two to three years
Thank you, this summerizes my point exactly as for charging "Cycles". As you can clearly see here the author states the exact point we are discussing. I am not making this up, it simply comes from 20 years of technical wireless experience.

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So far, little is known about the life expectancy of the Li-ion polymer. Because of the similarities with the Li-ion, the long-term performance of both systems is expected to be similar.
Li-ion and Li-ion Polymer are realy different in their behaviour even though they are both in the Li-ion family.

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Simple Guidelines
  • Charge the Li-ion often, except before a long storage. Avoid repeated deep discharges.
I have not heard this statement before. Is this in referance to Li-ion Polymer or regular Li-ion batteries? your quote cuts off and is unclear.

Thank you for validating my statement about charging cycles.

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Originally Posted by Raging Idiot View Post
I probably have my battery half discharged and then recharged about twice a day. I wonder if that's considered 2 cycles or just 1 "full" cycle.
Yes RI, this would be considered 2 cycles as you are plugging and unplugging 2 times.


EDIT - Users should feel free to discuss points of interest with me, however you as a user solely decide how you will approach me which sets the stage for our entire interaction. If a user comes to me with an attitude it will be a poor interaction. If a user comes to me with objectiveness and civility it will be a good interaction (and i may even find agreement in your point).
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specifically where you constantly badgered an individual after their post challenging you on any level. this entry is a bit long for your benefit.
again, if a user is civil, decent and intelligent in their approach we will get along fine. Look closely to the posts you are referring to. Of course i ask for verification, just like in this situation a common misinterpretation is the root of all the discussion.
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Last edited by canospinach; 12-29-2007 at 12:42 PM. Reason: i speak typo