[Nygel]

jumping late without reading above post, but i have been doing some extensive playning aroung with the phone and I don't know if I might be on to something (other members can test also). But what I have notice is that the ringer volume does not change thru Manila (Sense) ever time you asked it too (thats where the non chage icon comes from). In manila if you chaqnge the ringer state from silent or off to audible the icons may or maynot change but the state of it does not, you have to use the volume up and down buttons for this to fully change. I can conclude by saying yes I have duplicated the ringer issue and resolve the non ringing state at the same time by using the above method. Juicy if you gander on this, thats how it worked for me