Thank thank you, I think I just found my new pair of headphone / headset. i was going to buy those Dr dre beats but I think there just expensive due to brand.... so I just ordered the koss and htc ones via you're links =] to sum it up the koss are 3.5 with mic on them which is win win, sound great, plus the htc remote will make music access better. If i ever hit the lotto I'll treat you to some bose