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Nope, not doomed to fail. Just what they are - MS products.
If you need em, you need em - if not the choice is Crapple (pass) or Symbian (ok, but rather British) or Palm (talk about dead and buried) or a closed java phone (pass)
I guess I am wondering what you see as the alternative. The Google Phone? Yeah, maybe, but that should end up looking like an officially sanctioned version of what we get with the kitchens for Apache now
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