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Originally Posted by poorlyduck
Yeah your right, but that it doesnt mean that we like Touch fiscally, but we do like the apps in Touch, Mogul with wifi, sliding keyboard + hardware buttons everywhere and Touch apps is great.
people who wanted to trade in for Touch, they just did it because others could. Think about it, if Touch was released first then Mogul, you'll hear the same thing, everyone will jump for the Mogul. people like always new toys.
Personally I wouldnt change Mogul for nothing beside the Tilt.
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You say this like you know all the Touch owners personally.
Most seem to forget that each of us have our likes and dislikes and chosing one device over another doesnt make that decision wrong. I could tell someone not to get the Mogul; but that wouldnt be fair. MY experience may not have ever happened to a happy Mogul users and vice versa.
I used my Mogul for 4 months. OTB, it had its flaws. Like most die-hards, I kept it THINKING that it would improve; for me, it didnt. Out of the 4 months I used it, WiFi barely worked. I convinced myself that since I didnt rely on WiFi exclusely, I could ignore its short comings.
BT was a nightmare. On my end, I sounded just fine, but to my callers I sounded like I was under water. Since my end appeared to be trouble free, I spent a lot of time telling the people I talked with that the problem must be theirs.
When I first got the Mogul, construction-wise, I thought it was a beautiful device; that thought lasted about 45 days. My Mogul was seperating. When I would close the keyboard slider, it wouldnt lay flat. I found that too often I had to push down on it to make sure the thing was closed properly.
Performance sucked. From day one it had always been slow as dog do do!
I've had every Palm Treo since the 600 and all of them were pretty snappy. Google searching led me to the fact that WM devices were slower than Palm; no matter what WM processor speed. With that knowledge, I learned to adjust to the slowness and stopped expecting apps to open in a flash.
Lock-up/Freezing became the driving force for getting away from the Mogul as fast as I could. I have lost count of how many calls and texts I have missed due to this "bug?" It got so bad that too many times I found myself constantly pushed into a corner because people are thinking that I am ignoring their calls. For hourssssssssss my phone would not ring, but the second I wake it up, here are all these missed calls and numerous texts flooding thru.
Resets - The amount of resets I did in the course of ONE day was atrocious. Please keep in mind that I am talking about when my Mogul was stock and when it was not loaded to the nines with all kinds of 3P apps. Either way, I spent too much time resetting the thing.
My reasons above are what made me switch to the Touch; NOT because everybody else could get one. I have a Treo 755p that I had activated because the Mogul was just not cutting it for me.
Many people say sarcastically, that if you want what the Touch has, get an iPhone. Well, I already had the iPhone BEFORE the Touch, so for me...thats a non-issue and an argument that no one will win in my book. People who say "get an iPhone" come off as superior, never thinking before they typed that ish that some of us actually do have BOTH A-C-T-I-V-A-T-E-D!!
The Treos all have external keyboards, so again, not an issue since obviously for me having devices with/without external keyboards doesnt make the Moguls slide out keyboard the goal winner. I dont base the Mogul's importance on it's keyboard.
As someone else stated, these boards were over-run with people claiming they wanted one-hand operation of the Mogul and also claiming that they didnt like switching back and forth to use the Moguls keyboard.
MOST of them were looking for *cough*
SOFTWARE keyboards. But now, when questions arise from people contemplating one device over the other, here comes the same folks, swearing by all that is holy, that the Moguls external keyboard is what they live and breath for.... give me a break.
Based on my Mogul experience, I would never own another one. I need a device that works and works well. I've become bored with tweaking the hell out of any device to make it function properly.
I no longer care to keep a device longer than 30 days just because there are forums like this one that exist. To the average John and Jane Public, they dont know about these sites.
If money is not an object, then having the most expensive doesnt mean you have the best; you only the newest. Yes, the Touch is cheaper than the Mogul; but the Touch just performs leaps and bounds over the Mogul.
The absence of buttons all over the place is great IMO. The Mogul just has way too many of them.
Thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Debating the Mogul/Touch pros and cons will not change my opinion of the Mogul being a device that should have been scrapped on the production floor.
And for those that are always so willing to pick up a bat and attack a persons individual opinions for what they feel- ask yourself- what do you gain?