[edufur]

as to where the vg kitchen fits in, it'll be a bit outdated since it is 1620 and helmi's will be 1908. although, i guess that doesn't mean much if 1908 proves to be worse than 1620. I personally am using the "no junk" build right now and wont switch until the 1908 kitchen. the reason i was asking about version is simple. if it was gonna be a 1620 kitchen, i would stop holding my breath since the "no junk" build is perfect for me for now. but since it is 1908, it will have a lot to offer i suppose.