didnt know about the windows mobile built in thingy, might check that out a bit. Thank you for hte cab. I have tried to make CABs on many occasions, but for some reason I never get it right. I can take a cab and turn it into an OEM, but using WinACE I just cant get an installable CAB. heck I once took a CAB, turned it into an OEM, and then couldnt remake it into a cab... still looking for one of those "winace for freaking morons" tutorials....