have you been on precentral.net? its just as big if not bigger than pcgeeks and its just as hackable as any WM device. what you need to understand is that WM is a more mature OS due to the fact that it has been around for so long so obviously there is more hacks, roms, suport ATM unlike the Pre which has been out for like a month and a half. but in that small time they have already enabled tethering, multiple hacks like web downloading, rooted (jailbroken) the OS, and have cooked up more than 30 homebrewed apps already (not counting the ones in the appstore) So it has been growing in a rapid pace so far for the little time it has been out. The Pre has a very nice OS with a nice crisp screen, gesture bar, nice camera, and a lot of promise, but its understandible if you like the Pro better cuz its still a 1.0 OS but IMO it will sure catch up