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Hypnotic2010 06-12-2009 08:40 AM

*NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
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Remember to check your registry HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NetCompactFramework\
Change 3.7 value from "0" to "1"


I will add any info on this build as soon as I get it:

by Trancecoder@XDA:
Recently, a leaked version of .NET CF "3.7" has surfaced on XDA-Developers. I decided to take a look at it to see what's different. Unfortunately, only the mobile runtime is available, so no easy access to development tools. However, that doesn't stop Red Gate's .NET Reflector from peeking at the insides of a lot of these DLLs.
So I've been exploring the leaked DLLs pseudorandomly, and here are the differences between .NET CF 3.5 and "3.7" that I have found so far:
  • Added System.AppDomainManager as well as its prerequisites
    • Advanced stuff that the majority of people don't touch, I bet
    • Used for customizing the CLR
    • Already exists in full .NET 3.5
  • Added System.TimeZoneInfo
    • Currently it is internal sealed, but that will likely change by release time
    • Already exists in full .NET 3.5
  • Added System.DateTimeOffset
    • It's public!
    • Already exists in full .NET 3.5
  • Added System.Security.Cryptography.SHA256 and related classes
    • Also added HMAC with SHA1 and SHA256 support
    • Already exists in full .NET 3.5
  • Added System.Linq.Expressions namespace
    • Probably a bunch of other LINQ-related additions as well
    • Already exists in full .NET 3.5
  • Added System.Runtime.Serialization.Json namespace
    • It certainly isn't for ASP.NET
    • Perhaps it's for Silverlight?
    • Already exists in full .NET 3.5
  • Added System.IO.UnmanagedMemoryStream
    • No visible changes to the Marshal class though
    • Already exists in full .NET 3.5
From the above list, it looks like we're just getting more .NET 3.5 stuff in the Compact Framework. I don't have a problem with that. I just really want to develop with WPF/Silverlight for WIndows Mobile!
Hmm, I just realized that I didn't look in any WinMo-specific assemblies. Let's see what I'll find there.
  • Added Microsoft.WindowsCE.Forms.CentralMenu
    • A mystery, Holmes!
    • Also added CentralMenuExtensions - very interesting
That's it so far. Still, there is a mysterious Central Menu that I'll be wondering about now. Is this related to what all those purported WM7 screenshots had in the bottom-center of the screen? Maybe, or maybe it's just wishful thinking. I'd say, it's likely the latter. I guess we'll find out soon enough :)


By l3v5y@xda:
The current builds of 3.7 don't have DirectX support (as far as I can see) so things like lights.exe don't work.
Seems that backwards compatability may not have been a priority.

I would be weary of downloading this. The .NET framework is collection of libraries to make developing applications just that much easier. Installing a version of the .NET framework is not going to improve your device in any way. This supposed version has not been released; only until Microsoft releases this will we be able to really use it to build applications. The next version is going to be 4.0 anyway because the compact framework follows the same versioning of the full framework. This is a waste and is of no value to end user, especially since there will be no applications in existence that use this supposed framework until it is released from Microsoft.

Is it compatible with d3d drivers?
It does work only if you remove the D3D out of the ROM first, then add the NetCF3.7. Reboot and then add the D3D and lights.exe works.



UH OHH:
Originally Posted by microsoft
VIA EMAIL:

Demand for Immediate Take-Down: Notice of Infringing Activity

URL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525367
Case #: 248220
Date: 29 June 2009

Dear Sir or Madam,

Microsoft has received information that the domain listed above, which appears to be on servers under your control, is offering unlicensed copies of, or is engaged in other unauthorized activities relating to copyrighted works published by Microsoft.

1. Identification of copyrighted works:

Copyrighted work(s):
.NET Compact Framework 3.7

Copyright owner:
Microsoft Corporation

2. Copyright infringing material or activity found at the following location(s):

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525367

The above copyright work(s) is being made available for copying, through downloading, at the above location without authorization of the copyright owner.

3. Statement of authority:

The information in this notice is accurate, and I hereby certify under penalty of perjury that I am authorized to act on behalf of Microsoft, the owner of the copyright(s) in the work(s) identified above. I have a good faith belief that none of the materials or activities listed above have been authorized by Microsoft, its agents, or the law.

We hereby give notice of these activities to you and request that you take expeditious action to remove or disable access to the material described above, and thereby prevent the illegal reproduction and distribution of this copyright work(s) via your company's network.

We appreciate your cooperation in this matter. Please advise us regarding what actions you take.

Yours sincerely,

xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Internet Investigator

on behalf of Microsoft Corporation
One Microsoft Way


Mods, If this is genuine, I will take this down immediately.



Heres the OEM Package: http://filefactory.com/file/ag6b02c/...3_7_8345_00_7z

TREmp77 06-12-2009 12:26 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Looks like your thread was the first posted and its not getting any love...so I thought I'd drop a thanks and post something.

Any advantages to this new framework?

dav1boy 06-12-2009 01:21 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
anyone else try this version yet that has some feeback?

dschoenike 06-12-2009 01:34 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Ive had it installed and the registry adjusted for a few hours now, but im not quite sure what to look for, improvment-wise.
dschoenike

madcowmilau 06-12-2009 01:49 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
gave thanks but dont wanna b the 1st 2 try. please someone review. Excellent find Hypnotic

iceberg8685 06-12-2009 01:57 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
What reg change do we need to make after installing this?
Thanks.

dschoenike 06-12-2009 03:26 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Go to HKLM/software/microsoft/NETcompactframework and change 3.7 from 0 to 1. And change 3.5 from 1 to 0. softreset
dschoenike

rdavidsmith 06-12-2009 05:59 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Quite a few chefs are cooking this in anyway...

Whosdaman 06-12-2009 06:41 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Where can I get that Configuration for NetCF?

Hypnotic2010 06-12-2009 06:46 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whosdaman (Post 971602)
Where can I get that Configuration for NetCF?

Here you go


**edit**- actually it is included in the .cab in my first post, enjoy.

Whosdaman 06-12-2009 06:47 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Tyvm :D

Hypnotic2010 06-12-2009 06:54 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whosdaman (Post 971613)
Tyvm :D

No prob, but you should use the one in the .cab from the first post because it creates a link in the programs folder.

Geekcop 06-12-2009 07:26 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Nice find! Perhaps Coz will OK an honorarium from the PPC Geeks petty cash fund.

psycho_maniac 06-14-2009 08:10 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
anybody know a difference yet? also how do you get to the .net framework link without it in the programs? i wanna see what version i have. since sombody said that a lot of ppl are cooking this in already.

Hypnotic2010 06-14-2009 08:34 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho_maniac (Post 975052)
anybody know a difference yet? also how do you get to the .net framework link without it in the programs? i wanna see what version i have. since sombody said that a lot of ppl are cooking this in already.

If you use the .cab in the first post, it has the .net configuration .cab that leaves a shortcut in programs folder.

More info coming soon....

Hypnotic2010 06-15-2009 09:42 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Remember to check your registry HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NetCompactFramework\
Change 3.7 value from "0" to "1"


http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...bbd8dddca4.png

Automaton 06-15-2009 11:46 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Any proof that this runs existing .NET apps any better? Or does it just support new functionality for developers to use?

HBOOT 06-15-2009 11:48 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Good question man I did ask the same in teh other netcf thread but nothing concrete, matter of fact no answer. Can anyone chime in? I installed teh nect3.7 cab , I didnt see any difference except for the fact that my battery meter went haywire after a day ot two, that could be str8 up coincidence. So what's up with netcf 3.7?

Hypnotic2010 06-15-2009 11:59 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Speculation as of now. Still waiting for an official word.

HBOOT 06-15-2009 12:06 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
worrrrd:mrgreen:until then it stays off my TP.:headbang:

chronster 06-16-2009 09:42 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
This seemed to mess up my arcsoft mms. I had to go back to 3.5 because i couldn't find anything in the application list for my special mms.

Basically, it would appear as if something was sent, but nothing would go through. On top of that, I couldn't access any kind of messaging after sending a mms off. Resorting back to 3.5 fixed this. And like I said, this function wasn't listed in the app list for me to specify 3.5 for.

degojoe83 07-02-2009 01:43 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
any fixes for the arcsoft problem yet?

havox22 07-02-2009 02:34 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
i forget where i read it but it was in 1 of the development threads on here or xda, but 3.7 takes a couple functions away and is more for wm7 u wont get any advantages from using 3.7 on 6.1 or 6.5 stay with 3.5 everybody
until wm7 comes out

redd214 07-02-2009 02:45 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
thanx for the tip havox i was just about to give this a shot

Big Redneck3100 07-02-2009 03:45 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Im sooooooooo glad I read the forums before I try stuff lol....Thanks to all the smart folks here ;)

Adrynalyne 07-02-2009 03:58 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Yep, I cooked one rom with it in, and the response was 100% negative.

HBOOT 07-02-2009 04:01 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Good idea NeckRed, where u been man?

delawaresace 07-05-2009 07:54 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
so let me get this straight, with the configuration cab i can switch from 3.7 back to 3.5 if i experience any bad effects?

Hypnotic2010 07-05-2009 09:22 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Apparently, Microsoft has issued a Cease and desist order on posting the .net cf 3.7 at XDA. I have added the letter for you to view in the first post.
If there is an issue with this or if the Mods would like me to take this down I will immediately, Thanks.

downjones 02-09-2010 02:48 AM

Just made a cab all in one
 
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here we go...I made a cab...all versions of .NET are included also the NetCfg.....guys I installed it there are definitely no negative effects on Windows Mobile....you can always switch which should be used by default...also I realised that the registry is always staying for 3.7 on the value (1)......I thought NetCfg should change the values....:scratch:

Hypnotic2010 02-09-2010 09:25 AM

Re: Just made a cab all in one
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downjones (Post 1552189)
here we go...I made a cab...all versions of .NET are included also the NetCfg.....guys I installed it there are definitely no negative effects on Windows Mobile....you can always switch which should be used by default...also I realised that the registry is always staying for 3.7 on the value (1)......I thought NetCfg should change the values....:scratch:

Thanks,
But what is the difference with this cab than whats in the first post?

downjones 02-13-2010 03:42 AM

Re: Just made a cab all in one
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypnotic2010 (Post 1552475)
Thanks,
But what is the difference with this cab than whats in the first post?


the difference is...there are 3 different cabs! :) here you got only 1 to install :mrgreen:

Miami_Son 07-19-2010 08:15 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Automaton (Post 976049)
Any proof that this runs existing .NET apps any better? Or does it just support new functionality for developers to use?

I've had this version for about 6 months and used it on my Incite. I don't know about better, but I never installed 3.5 on my Tilt 2 opting to use this instead and it runs everything I have put on it without issue.

mike2nl 08-01-2010 05:10 AM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
@all:
in the short. This new .NET version is not only for the new WM OS version. It has also battery drain issues on wm6.5 and wm6.5.x. These tests are done in different dev teams. As sample by me in co0kies home tab beta team. So leave 3.7 and go back to 3.5. Also some possible backdoors are in this new version. MS will and must have more information about the users and what type of warez software is running .. he he.. this is another step against warez. How long?.. MS never learn and can't listen ](*,)

atc20072008 09-25-2010 07:42 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
thanksssssssssssssssssss

Miami_Son 10-01-2010 08:47 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2nl (Post 1892620)
@all:
in the short. This new .NET version is not only for the new WM OS version. It has also battery drain issues on wm6.5 and wm6.5.x. These tests are done in different dev teams. As sample by me in co0kies home tab beta team. So leave 3.7 and go back to 3.5. Also some possible backdoors are in this new version. MS will and must have more information about the users and what type of warez software is running .. he he.. this is another step against warez. How long?.. MS never learn and can't listen ](*,)

After reading this, I decided to ditch 3.7 and install 3.5 despite not having any issues with 3.7 on my Tilt 2. Bad move. I've seen absolutely zero difference in operation, but battery consumption has gone crazy. Within a couple hours off the charger and not doing anything with the phone it dropped to 80%. By late evening last night after minimal use it was down to 40%. Today, it was down to 50% by 6pm, something I've never seen before with normal usage. Think I'm going back to 3.7.

darren.wlsn1 10-01-2010 08:54 PM

Re: *NEW*Leaked .NET CF 3.7*Faster All Net CF 2.0 & 3.5 & 3.7 .Cab+OEM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 1963191)
After reading this, I decided to ditch 3.7 and install 3.5 despite not having any issues with 3.7 on my Tilt 2. Bad move. I've seen absolutely zero difference in operation, but battery consumption has gone crazy. Within a couple hours off the charger and not doing anything with the phone it dropped to 80%. By late evening last night after minimal use it was down to 40%. Today, it was down to 50% by 6pm, something I've never seen before with normal usage. Think I'm going back to 3.7.

i never go backwards, tp2 likes 3.7 better too


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