Max Sense Flopped & CHT's Brilliance!!!
 

Now Im still trying to give it time. But maxsense is just a free spb shell...I have to say its a flop so far. I have seen that Energy and others have tried to spruce it up but I mean these CHT updates are killing max sense. I tried max sense three different roms and updates from both energy and from big max sense...but its just not convenient and even if I wanted to take the time to fully customize all those home screens it still wouldnt be enough to sway me from regular 2.5 w/ CHT, especially with the addition of CHT 1.8 and the new rolling home screen...NICE! Cookie is smart as hell...I know they got mad stuff up their sleeve ready to roll out but they're just like Apple tryna give us just enough to stay hungry for more... I bet you on CHT 1.9 or 2.0 there will be moving home screens like android and they will effectively make the move to adroid moot. cookie shoulda been hired by microsoft. Oh yea and Max sense try to look less child like and fun andd bubbly...Come out with widgets that are dope looking and have ridiculous customization...even come out with the same time and weather with analog that regular sense has...Simple

I'm not being impatient I know its only been a couple of weeks but what I saw in the six teaser videos is not what I got. This is not putting you down whoever made it just a challenge...Who am I to challenge no one...but still, step it up boy!!

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What ya'll think???

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I somewhat agree with you, but maybe not as strong.
Maxsense was hyped to no end. I still prefer CHT also but some people probably like Maxsense better. It all comes down to personal preference. I mean, if we look hard enough, we can probably find people who still prefer the old "Today screen".

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Hell, I still like my Commodore 64 ...

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@mod - Can we get this moved to the TP2 forum?


I'm coming at this from having used CHT and never having used MaxSense... I think that MaxSense JUST dropped... I mean like a week (2 weeks tops) ago? I know that CHT was not super-incredible when it first dropped, and Cookie has had a lot of time and input for making tweaks, mods, and enhancements... I say give MaxSense some time and I'm sure the bugs will get ironed out and be lot more user-friendly.

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its a matter of taste and speed...I like maxsense with Bignadad customizations...the fact that you have a rep of 20 and been here for a while indicates your trollness. contribute something of value or go back in your hole...both are fantastic but it is about preference.

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How about instead of bashing it, you produce something better. I think you owe big a apology for what he has done most could not even think of. If its not your cup of tea don't use it. Its FREE and a lot of people love it, he has almost over 80,000 views in his thread. if it was a flop it would be nowhere near that. so you might want to rethink what you posted.

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Moved to Windows Mobile Software




CW

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Seriously dude,

I think the bolded statement was the best thing you said in the whole post. Like most already said, if you don't like how maxsense has been implemented so far, either offerred the chefs your feedbacks in the ROM Post on how improvements can be made or how certain bugs can be fixed...or simply just create your own ROM.

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I can't say i disagree with that. I kind of feel the same way. MaxSense on release didn't meet up to the hype....frankly at all in my opinion. But I know these guys do good work so I'm willing to give it time and download every so often as it gets better. As was said earlier, I felt the same way about Cookie Home Tab when it first came out. And look at what a beast it is now!

I also understand that this is a free product, but I think his dissatisfaction is warranted. So much expectation and hype was put into this and people (including myself) were on pins and needles waiting for the hottest thing since sliced bread to drop...and it dropped....more like a stale biscuit....lol (i'm kidding it wasn't that bad, i think) but c'mon, can you really blame anyone for being just a little bothered by that?

But like I said I know these guys do good work (ie BigCookie....love it. I wish it weren't discontinued. it really is a good rom) So I'll just kick back and enjoy the ride, and wait for MaxSense to get better. I say wait until MaxSense is more developed before you compare to CHT. I also say don't hate on wodurrah b/c he said something you don't like. He wasn't even disrespectful. Just speak ur mind respectfully and keep it moving. 2 cents deposited......

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thank you warchild. I was intentionally very fair handed and open about the fact that I have not given much and have little to offer in terms of development of ROMS. I was trying to use this forum as just that a forum to hear others thoughts about something obviously we all love. And I cant say im not suprised. It seems like standard policy to bash bad mouth and down play any ones ideas that are opposite the crowd. I wasnt insanely mean. I mentioned that he deserves time to develop...maybe the title was a bit harsh, but you gotta catch peoples attention right. As well I was very complimentary of Cookie. I apologize to developer of Maxsense if I was mean. I dont think I was trying to be mean. I was excited and I want maxsense to be the ish. And of course its free and im a ungrateful punk but Im not the only one expecting more from maxsense and waiting to see its development. Dont be mean. This is a forum had you just said CHT had more time to develop that would have been more than enough. To say you want to bash me or call me a troll is completely uncalled for. Some of these geeks on here have this uppity lil attitude cut it out.

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I think people miss the point of MaxSense. it's not for the users who want practically the same Sense look. CHT has provided an enhanced version of Sense. MaxSense is not Sense. It has the Sense tabs available to you, but it's not Sense at all. I think people also miss that MaxSense is much much faster on the tp2 than co0kie's tab because of the fact that it doesn't use the Sense homescreen. Do people not realize you can access links and tabs from any screen because of the new two way switch at the bottom?

I also think people hate MaxSense because of the skin. That can be changed easily and I'm sure we'll see a new look soon. Don't forget MS is avaiable only by ROM and CHT is a cab install. That's another reason it didn't balloon up with excitement > I bet there are tons of people who haven't tried it for that reason alone.

I don't think this thread was necessary, sorry. People have different opinions, but this is just looking for arguments. I use CHT by the way, but I also like MaxSense. I think you're missing how impressive the mod itself is... quit looking at gfx and see what it truly can do.

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I wish I could comment on the merits of MaxSense vs CHT. I, like many others, after 2 weeks of emails to maxy have still not rec'd the files to cook into my own custom rom. I can say that the responsiveness of Co0kie and his team in addressing bugs and getting out the next version to a large number of chefs and individual users is, IMHO, a big part of the success of their development.

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I don't know man. From what I gathered when I tried MS out was that everything was all spread out. It actually took longer to reach the information I was looking for b/c I had to touch the phone twice vs it being a single quick swipe of my thumb. On top of that, some of the widgets were unresponsive and you had to press a hole through the screen just to get to things like txt messages and email.

Now granted, max sense is noticeably faster, but I'm not sold on its functionality yet. It just hasn't come together for me....not yet.

Oh and I disagree on this thread looking for arguments. Yeah the header is a bold statement, but that's what drew my attention and honestly I want to hear more opinions on this. Honestly I think whats being said here is what a lot of people thought but didn't say. Nothings wrong with that. Developers who love their work should look for stuff like this so they can make their projects that they love better.

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Why on earth would he owe Big an apology? He is a chef, a very good one and maybe he had a small part in testing MaxSense but that is it. He didn't bad mouth Bigs work it is probably the prettiest out there. The developer is Maxcy people need to remember that no matter how much some out there are putting their own stamp on it....

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i have already quoted you on this through NRG's thread....

i have never said that i created MaxSense, but i had a lot more to do with it than just testing....

here is a quote for Max himself on post one of MaxSense thread on XDA

Not trying to get extra credit or any bs like that, but getting tired of seen you post this here and there...

Not trying to mislead anyone here.

btw.. thanks for the props you did give me..

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OK So point of view from a "lurker"... I've been flashing roms for a while now starting with some of Mighty's stuff (who IMHO is still one of the best who ever did it). I normally don't say much except for the occasional thanks. But now I can't help but to ask exactly who's toes BiG stepped on to deserve such ridicule? I have never seen such a bashing of any other project on or in any forum.

I think that when I 1st flashed with Mighty 2.1, I was hooked because it was so new and fresh from the stock. When 2.5 hit it was bannanas. But I found myself waiting for Mighty to drop his version, not because it was gonnin to be groud breakin at that point, but simply because from that 1st flash I felt a sense of loyalty and I trusted his work.

Cookie again was another break through that took it all to another level and as time went I gravitated to a few different roms that incorporated it.

I really think that alot of people are failing to see the picture. If you take the time to look into it, with each new development alot of our favorite chefs are becoming more and more involved and contributing to time and work together to take our, now 2+yr old phones, to a level beyond what any of us could have imagined. Each new break through has come with a period of "trial and error" before it becomes a thing of standard. And by then guess what... These same Great Chefs will be moving on to the next level.

OK So all that to say this... If you don't contribute anything else here except a rambling of a bottom feeding mooch that sits back like a fat ass food critic that can't boil water, but thinks you've earn any right to pass judgement... SHUT THE HELL UP!!!

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I have not tried it at all. I have tried to get max sense so i can cook it into my own rom but he still will not talk to me. Thanks

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OP has the right to speak his mind, but he's trollin.

software has cycles man. remember the early CHT? when no one used it cuz of MaxManila!!! only when max transitioned from MaxManila to MaxSense did CHT get popular (or good enough to use IMO).

Currently CHT has got months of developement time on MaxSense. If maxy continues to work on MaxSense it will obliterate CHT within a month

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gotta love this site though, opinions are good and im glad staff left this open but i think op's crazy for posting the way he did. i hate maxsense but i would word things little better.

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Why do you hate maxsense?

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Wow I don't know why I didn't connect the dots on that one! :disgust: Maxy made MaxManilla and MaxSense. I was wondering what happened to MaxManilla, I just never looked into it on account of CHT. But dude you're right. I payed zero attention to CHT b/c I was on MaxManilla. It wasn't until I saw the combined powers of CHT and CHT editor, that I crossed over. But w/ Maxy on MaxSense, it won't be too long before I'm having trouble deciding between the two! This will be something to watch!

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Guys, leave the moderating to the mods. Everyone has an opinion, doesn't mean it is right or wrong. It is just an opinion.

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I got 1200 looks and mad replies...I wanted to know how people felt and my post and my title got that done. Obviously my opinion is not ill founded...And I said that I would be patient but as of now after all that hype and patiently waiting for another sneak peek on youtube or pocketnow im saying im disappointed...I mean I hate SPB shell so that might be part of my discomfort...

Read the paper some time thats what writers do they overstate for the purposes of attention...lighten up

I said several things that would let you know that I am a fair minded person...I prefaced everything I said with I am no one and I havent cooked or developed anything...and then went on to offer my opinion and opinion that wasn't even that harsh

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Little early in my opinion to be drawing such harsh conclusions. I mean geez its only been out a few weeks and its already being criticised like this. hey if you dont like it fine. Personally I tried it and it was ok but the ram usage was too much for my TP2. At least acknoledge the skill it took to reprogram TF3 to this...that in it self is a huge accomplishment. And really please lets give this time to evolve, it can only improve from here.

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i love this thread, i just think it would've come off a little nicer if it were a comparison rather than a this is better than this. i, however, do agree that maxsense just isn't ready for me yet. i love the fact that it's something different and appreciate the work done on it, i just prefer the functionality of cookie. i tried big's and nrg's maxsense. i agree with the skin issue but mainly it just took more swipes to do something not less. but that's just my opinion:)

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Not sure where the last statement comes from since CHT1.0 was released on the same day that Maxycy announced he started MaxSense, Jan. 30, 2010. Does anyone know for sure when either was really started? It could easily be argued that the development of MaxSense began with the development of MaxManila.

To Co0kie's credit, he and his team have had 5 major releases ( 1.0, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8 ) in 4.5 months, followed by their very timely (usually about week) minor releases that fixes issues of that release.

Still, I want to cook MaxSense into my own custom rom and give it a try, but I've all but given up hope on getting the files anytime soon, if at all.

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i could not have this better myself.=D>

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Personally having tried them both I have gone back to CHT. Maybe a bit down the road with more time I Might try maxsense again. at the immediate moment, every rom that I have tried that has MaxSense seems to eat up memory until I finally lock up. Maybe theres a memory leak in it somewhere? Maybe thats been found and fixed, I dunno. I havent looked at maxsense in a couple weeks.