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gmfeny 04-20-2010 01:44 PM

Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
I found this over at pocketnow. i don't what exactly this means, if its the same as multitouch on the HD2 or what, so could someone please explain if you have more knowledge on this.
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/mult...-now-available

heres the original thread over at xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655830

6/10 new link with app that I'm guessing could be installed and doesn't have to be cooked in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699596

Shabaz 04-20-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
I just saw this on engadget. I hope that someone can put this into a fully function version for all us stuck in the single touch world

sprinttouch666 04-21-2010 01:46 AM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
I'm not trying to flame or hate but i just don't see the point. I can do everything I've ever needed to with 1 hand (holding the device and using that hands thumb). y should i move my phone to the other hand or set it down somewhere just to do a pinch gesture? its awesome that we CAN do this (because some people will use it) but it seems like an inconvenience 2 me. just my 2 cents

gmfeny 04-21-2010 08:47 AM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
i see it as the more features the better.

inertone 04-21-2010 02:28 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmfeny (Post 1710682)
i see it as the more features the better.

definitely true

multi-touch would be amazing!
ESPECIALLY on screens which weren't designed to react as such

cd85233 04-23-2010 04:30 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sprinttouch666 (Post 1710379)
I'm not trying to flame or hate but i just don't see the point. I can do everything I've ever needed to with 1 hand (holding the device and using that hands thumb). y should i move my phone to the other hand or set it down somewhere just to do a pinch gesture? its awesome that we CAN do this (because some people will use it) but it seems like an inconvenience 2 me. just my 2 cents

I think that the idea is WAY awesome! Having an Ipod touch I can tell you that there are some cook perks to having this work...Is it necessary? No. But it would be cool to have some apps that use this.

gmfeny 06-10-2010 05:46 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
Update:
Someone else over at xda is creating a app that you could just install that will get multitouch working on your Touch Pro 2's. Here's the link to it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699596

2 Bunny 06-12-2010 10:57 AM

FAIL Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sprinttouch666 (Post 1710379)
I'm not trying to flame or hate but i just don't see the point. I can do everything I've ever needed to with 1 hand (holding the device and using that hands thumb). y should i move my phone to the other hand or set it down somewhere just to do a pinch gesture? its awesome that we CAN do this (because some people will use it) but it seems like an inconvenience 2 me. just my 2 cents

Absolutely right. If you poke a resistive screen in two spots at the same time, all you are doing (or as the device sees it anyway) is poking the screen in the center of those two spots. Multitouch, while it is a cool novelty, is completely worthless, in my opinion, LOL! IMO!

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gmfeny 06-12-2010 07:32 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
did you see this link I posted. multitouch is NOT worthless at all. everybody knows the zoombar on the touch pro 2 sucks and with multitouch working pinch to zoom works well. check the video and the link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699596 and you could see what I mean.

2 Bunny 06-12-2010 08:29 PM

LOL! Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmfeny (Post 1811349)
did you see this link I posted. multitouch is NOT worthless at all. everybody knows the zoombar on the touch pro 2 sucks and with multitouch working pinch to zoom works well. check the video and the link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699596 and you could see what I mean.

In Opera Mobile ten, it only takes a single hand and a single tap to zoom in. ☺

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gmfeny 06-13-2010 10:03 AM

Re: LOL! Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Bunny (Post 1811443)
In Opera Mobile ten, it only takes a single hand and a single tap to zoom in. ☺

- 2 Bunny

so does opera mobile 9.5, 9.7 and opera mini but its only to a set zoom level. some pages the set zoom level may be a little to cllose or it may not be zoomed in enough and you need to zoom in a little more that's when you need the zoombar or in this case pinch to zoom. Even though it won't work on Opera Mobile 10.
But anyways I'm not forcing you to try it. If you don't wanna try it get the hell out of this thread lol... This is for people that wanna try then give there opinion AFTER trying.

- 4 Bunny :p

MrObvious 06-13-2010 11:13 AM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
I tried it and it sorta works.

2 Bunny 06-13-2010 12:43 PM

TIME'S A WASTIN' Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmfeny (Post 1812129)
so does opera mobile 9.5, 9.7 and opera mini but its only to a set zoom level. some pages the set zoom level may be a little to cllose or it may not be zoomed in enough and you need to zoom in a little more that's when you need the zoombar or in this case pinch to zoom. Even though it won't work on Opera Mobile 10.
But anyways I'm not forcing you to try it. If you don't wanna try it get the hell out of this thread lol... This is for people that wanna try then give there opinion AFTER trying.

- 4 Bunny :p

I mean, all the device sees is you pressing the screen in the center of those two points. To be honest, I have never had a page zoom in too far or not far enough away. The device can't tell the difference between your "pinch to zoom" and "toilet paper scrolling" anyway. Personally, like using the wheel sometimes, but Opera Mobile 10 does a pretty dang good job of guessing where you want to zoom in. 9.5 never did, but 10 is good. I just don't like wasting time/keystrokes, but if you want to, go ahead, I'm not stoppin' you. ☺

- 2 BUnny

matt12eagles 06-15-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
this driver isn't just guessing where your finger is or ignoring the first press.

for example...

pretend theres points 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 on the resistive touch screen. as u swipe and tap you go through those points one by one. when using "multitouch" it recognizes the instantaneous jump from one to the other when you put your second finger down. this instantaneous jump is what registers the zoom in and out feature which monitors the number compared to the inital number. For example it would register 1 to 5 instead of the usual seeing 12345 as a swipe.

To this however there are some disadvantages...
1. You cant move the first finger after you place the other finger down.
2. If you put both fingers down too close or at the same time it won't activate the zoom feature


Thats how the driver works... ive looked into it for a while but never devoted as much time to it as these people have. It's come along way and is really really useful! thx to all those involved! Matt

2 Bunny 06-17-2010 05:24 PM

EXPLANATION Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matt12eagles (Post 1816872)
this driver isn't just guessing where your finger is or ignoring the first press.

for example...

pretend theres points 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 on the resistive touch screen. as u swipe and tap you go through those points one by one. when using "multitouch" it recognizes the instantaneous jump from one to the other when you put your second finger down. this instantaneous jump is what registers the zoom in and out feature which monitors the number compared to the inital number. For example it would register 1 to 5 instead of the usual seeing 12345 as a swipe.

To this however there are some disadvantages...
1. You cant move the first finger after you place the other finger down.
2. If you put both fingers down too close or at the same time it won't activate the zoom feature


Thats how the driver works... ive looked into it for a while but never devoted as much time to it as these people have. It's come along way and is really really useful! thx to all those involved! Matt

Yep I know how resistive screens work. If you were to touch several spots at once with equal pressure, the thing would register a single poke in the center of both. I normally use my Diamond single handedly even for web, but someone else might find it useful.

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jabson 06-18-2010 06:25 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
The issues between capacitive and resistive have and will continue to create heated discussions. The joys of Resistive is I don't have to take my gloves off in the cold to make it work (sorry iPhone!). But the Capacitive recognizes multitouch.

Would I use Multitouch on my Imagio? Only if there was a usefull program for it. But just like some of the things on my phone, they are cool, but I rarely use them.

But the fact that the 'non-professionals' here on these types of sites are able to come up and do what the 'professionals say can't be done, is a testement to the brilliance working these forums.

I say lets let these great folks do this, and then lets piss on the apple folks when we show them that yes, we do multitouch.....with our gloves on!

Remember, what works for you is absoultely worthless and a waste to another!

2 Bunny 06-18-2010 06:37 PM

PHILOSPHICAL Reply
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jabson (Post 1823542)
The issues between capacitive and resistive have and will continue to create heated discussions. The joys of Resistive is I don't have to take my gloves off in the cold to make it work (sorry iPhone!). But the Capacitive recognizes multitouch.

Would I use Multitouch on my Imagio? Only if there was a usefull program for it. But just like some of the things on my phone, they are cool, but I rarely use them.

But the fact that the 'non-professionals' here on these types of sites are able to come up and do what the 'professionals say can't be done, is a testement to the brilliance working these forums.

I say lets let these great folks do this, and then lets piss on the apple folks when we show them that yes, we do multitouch.....with our gloves on!

Remember, what works for you is absoultely worthless and a waste to another!

So true. Couldn't have said it better myself. For instance, I don't see any point in wasting time moving an extra hand onto an already perfectly capable screen to make zooming take longer, but someone else who used a capacitive screen with this limitation might find him or herself not used to the features a resistive screen has to offer. Like that other person said, you can use it with gloves, and while I may never use my resistive screen with gloves, I do like to sometimes rest my thumb on the screen while waiting for a page to load or something. Unless you have really heavy thumbs or a way overly sensitive screen, a resistive screen wouldn't register a tap. It is really all personal taste, like Jason said. ☺

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shaggylive 06-18-2010 06:41 PM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
I just want this so when ppl try to pinch my phone it can scream and shout No Pinching :protest:
can that be accomplished?

jabson 06-28-2010 10:06 AM

Re: Multitouch for singletouch screens! (TouchPro 1/2?)
 
That would be funny! Imagine your iPhone friend showing off, then you say to them, "I can do the same, just my phone doesn't like it." And then you do! That would be a riot! OK Multitouch folks, heres your first fun app!


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