dcd's titan ROMs & kitchen 3.2.5

rickyrecaro · #1 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 01:14 AM

here you guys go hopefully the gps probably is fixed

direct link to xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413039

rom direct link http://www.lifesnotsogood.com/dcd118...itan_3.2.5.exe

carrier link http://lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/carriers/

have fun are report back.... big ups to dcd

asenduk · #2 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 01:36 AM

i posted this 2 hours ago here!

rickyrecaro · #3 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by asenduk

i posted this 2 hours ago here!

its all good maybe well expand to double the users with dcd roms ....

**electronicrice** · #4 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 01:34 PM

I much prefer DCD's roms to PPCKitchen and no2chem's stuff.

There's just so many bugs in their recent builds. And it seems that ppckitchen and no2chem care more about integrating no2chem's apps instead of fixing those bugs, without making the options to remove those apps if you don't want them.

Kind of defeats the purpose of a kitchen I think.

rickyrecaro · #5 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by electronicrice

I much prefer DCD's roms to PPCKitchen and no2chem's stuff.

There's just so many bugs in their recent builds. And it seems that ppckitchen and no2chem care more about integrating no2chem's apps instead of fixing those bugs, without making the options to remove those apps if you don't want them.

Kind of defeats the purpose of a kitchen I think.

dcd is rom of my choice. i have tried new no2chem one time and it wasnt that "snappy", im not hating on any one else is rom just that i kinda got hook on dcd.

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Originally Posted by gguruusa

Uh, no.

What bugs are you referring to? We try to fix all bugs.

You can remove any of no2chems apps that are non-critical. Some of his apps are modifications of required apps - those you can not remove and nor should you need/want to.

maybe in ill give no2chem one more try, i have my phone to almost perfect.. or at least for me and it getting kinda boring for me lol... so maybe ill change it up. but for now i have to say this rom is quick, a stable

**gguruusa** · #6 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 02:50 PM

Uh, no.

What bugs are you referring to? We try to fix all bugs.

You can remove any of no2chems apps that are non-critical. Some of his apps are modifications of required apps - those you can not remove and nor should you need/want to.

**electronicrice** · #7 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gguruusa

Uh, no.

What bugs are you referring to? We try to fix all bugs.

You can remove any of no2chems apps that are non-critical. Some of his apps are modifications of required apps - those you can not remove and nor should you need/want to.

Bugs like certain programs not functioning with the new builds, the top task bar not showing up or disappearing, the extra space at the bottom of the screen that can't be used. The app buttons not being mapped. Various other bugs that pop up and stay between builds. I know that some of these require a lot more research and fixes than normal because they've been ported from other devices, but it seems the time is being spent otherwise on integrating nue apps into WM (and not allowing them to be removed) that don't appeal to all users.

Upon using DCD's kitchen and previous builds of ppckitchen, I have never needed to use his modifications of critical apps. The phone has functioned fine and I don't see why they MUST be included in the final product other than gaining some street cred. The purpose of the kitchen was to allow users to customize what THEY wanted to add into their ROMs, not be forced to use someone else's program because it was deemed necessary for their benefit.

I have always appreciated your work and I still do, but I feel that it's gone a little downhill. The kitchens are being released with many obvious bugs relatively quickly, compared to the initial released of the Titan kitchen, which was supposedly highly tested, and forcing users to use apps they may not want, regardless if they're essential modifications.

Not attacking anyone, but that's my opinion and that's why I've moved to DCD's offerings.

**gguruusa** · #8 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by electronicrice

Bugs like certain programs not functioning with the new builds, the top task bar not showing up or disappearing, the extra space at the bottom of the screen that can't be used. The app buttons not being mapped. Various other bugs that pop up and stay between builds. I know that some of these require a lot more research and fixes than normal because they've been ported from other devices, but it seems the time is being spent otherwise on integrating nue apps into WM (and not allowing them to be removed) that don't appeal to all users.

Upon using DCD's kitchen and previous builds of ppckitchen, I have never needed to use his modifications of critical apps. The phone has functioned fine and I don't see why they MUST be included in the final product other than gaining some street cred.

Most of these were inherent issues with 20226. The nue apps that are integrated are probably in your DCD rom as well (they're more like tweaks than they are "new"). You should find that just about all nue products are user selectable since 19588. pre-19588 kitchens had heavy involvement w/ no2chem because he was willing and DCD wasn't. DCD is welcome to rejoin the party at any time.

That being said, your issue is ridiculous. DCD forces you to use his tweaks and app modifications when you use his kitchen. The extent to which we choose to integrate modifications is no different.

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Originally Posted by electronicrice

The purpose of the kitchen was to allow users to customize what THEY wanted to add into their ROMs, not be forced to use someone else's program because it was deemed necessary for their benefit.

You're not seriously going to state that DCDs kitchen is more flexible with a broader set of choices than PPCKitchen's, are you?

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Originally Posted by electronicrice

I have always appreciated your work and I still do, but I feel that it's gone a little downhill. The kitchens are being released with many obvious bugs relatively quickly, compared to the initial released of the Titan kitchen, which was supposedly highly tested, and forcing users to use apps they may not want, regardless if they're essential modifications.

Not attacking anyone, but that's my opinion and that's why I've moved to DCD's offerings.

Yes, 20226 turned out to suck. 20270 is far superior. Most of the major issues in 20226 and 20270 kitchens were from problems caused by shifts in how we do things in order to make a common kitchen base for multiple platforms and to optionize things like No2Chems apps. While there have been some initial hurdles to overcome, most issues have been resolved as of the 7/30/08 release of BuildOS, device cores, and 20270.

As you stated, the purpose of a kitchen is to let you pick what you want and don't want. PPCKitchen is proud to offer you the premier kitchen environment and the most flexible and broad kitchens there are.

superevilllama · #9 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 06:23 PM

wellll... I do agree with you on some points. I think that the new and improved version of build os is amazing, and yes, it absoultely does offer the ability to customize more options of the rom because of buildOS itself. I dont think electronicrice meant it that way.

From a personal standpoint, the kitchens that were released on here, back in the apache days, were updated constantly. From the last two releases, it seems that few issues were resolved, or at least a true changelog wasn't posted. A lot of issues have been resolved but the kitchen still hasn't been updated. It seems that a release is posted, and then nothing is done with it beyond that.

I would never discredit the work of anyone; No2chem, or the main ppcgeeks kitchen crew, as everyones help benefits the development of these awesome roms, and the time is donated by all. I am thankful for what is posted here for free.

One thing I have noticed is that No2chems roms are just that, definitely no2chems, complete with a million apps that do this and that, when I among others I'm sure are perfectly happy with the latest build of windows mobile that still looks like windows mobile. I think perhaps the best kitchen is one that is stock and updated and fully functional, and then perhaps write and add some apps in, such as the nueswitch, nueusb (awesome apps).

One thing I certainly like about DCD's latest rom is he has worked out a lot of the issues that plagued the newer builds, without the help of needing additional applications.

Either way, again I certainly do not want to discredit the work of anyone, on the roms or the buildos software. Everyone contributes their part and thats what makes this community awesome. I suppose one thing I would look forward to seeing is perhaps more development on the offical ppcgeeks rom builds.

Thanks for the great site tho. Seriously =]

sdsoundguy2007 · #10 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gguruusa

Uh, no.

What bugs are you referring to? We try to fix all bugs.

You can remove any of no2chems apps that are non-critical. Some of his apps are modifications of required apps - those you can not remove and nor should you need/want to.

Just to give you a heads up I have noticed with Trend Internet Security Pro (2008 version) that it keeps flaging the ppcgeeks.rar and sometimes the 000_shareware.rar saying it is infected. Since I do most of my flashing on a machine that is not for daily use I just disable Trend. In case you have not gotten any other reports of this I thought I would mention it. Might just be a problem with those files and Trend cannot confirm any other scaners though.