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Samsung Omnia 3D Drivers

Don't know if this will do anyone any good but.. run the D3D test from Palm.. see what it does.. install the drivers. soft reset.. run it again.. cube should be fast... It'll slow down a little when you try to touch the screen though... And I am running DVD 3.2.5 FYI

Got it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416474

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Does it do anything for changing portrait/landscape modes?

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Originally Posted by RicoRich196 (Post 379409)

Does it do anything for changing portrait/landscape modes?

CAn't say it does. although mine's pretty fast since it uses DCD's already

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this is just software based solution, it still uses the cpu instead of the gpu.

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It is definately an optimized driver which yields much better performance. it is even better on tomtom 7, but this might be placebo effect.

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Got about a 10% increase in TCPMP benchmark, so meh, but the D3D test is absurd. I was getting about 3.5fps (slower than molasses) before installing the drivers, now I don't know what I'm getting because the frame rate's not showing, but the square and ball are now moving at what appears to be full speed. Big improvement.

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Here is an OEM I made. Works in the PPCkitchen and DcD's Tested and verified. Wow nice little boost.

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I'm running the program/drivers now. Software or not, it's an enhancement and hopefully it works great on a No2Chem ROM.

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Working great on the latest stock SPCS rom here!

SWEET! Between No2Chem getting DD working, this, and hopefully REAL GPU drivers getting ported the Mogul will friggin ROCK! Forget the tiny little Raphael, lol.

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Working great for me too. Awesome find.

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will the driver survive a hard reset/rom flash? thx

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Originally Posted by rhannahs19 (Post 379948)

will the driver survive a hard reset/rom flash? thx

Why would it? Of course not. Think of a hardreset like a clean install of Windows, you still need to install the drivers after unless they are included.

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Originally Posted by 92GTA (Post 379953)

Why would it? Of course not. Think of a hardreset like a clean install of Windows, you still need to install the drivers after unless they are included.

Actually it will if you cook it into a rom image with the oem I made and posted. For the cab yeah it won't stick.

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Some very interesting comments from NuShrike and sakajati in the XDA thread. Well worth reading, but quoted here:

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Originally Posted by NuShrike (Post 2513272)

Nice find!

Most non-HTC implementations do do text right. There's something wrong with the Diamond drivers that crap out the text.
It is XSCALE optimized-software D3D (not hardware ATI), so at least better than the reference D3D HTC used to ship. I think ARMv6, which is the Kaiser, does support many of the XSCALE optimizations although not the specific WMMX ones.
GLBenchmark uses OpenGL, not D3D so you won't see a difference
These "drivers" are beta 1 built in 2003. Grain of salt action.
May be better than thin wrapper around OpenGL like the real drivers are, but you may lose GPU coprocessing meaning less CPU headroom for stuff like game AI, physics math, etc.
It does rely on DirectDraw so we may gain ATI hardware surface speedup from that since HTC did implement some ATI hardware support in the 3.28, and post, DDI.dlls.
D3Ddemo is running ~80-90 fps although the refresh on lights.exe seems more noticeable. Seems much better than KaiserGL drivers.
Are the transitions between colors rougher in this driver like it's not doing any bilinear filtering/anti-aliasing?
I don't see how it can be reliant on the KaiserGL drivers since it neither imports nor LoadLibrary() on anything external.
Does not require HTC-CA drivers to be installed, but may require HTC WM6.1 official (3.28 and after). I recommend these drivers over d3d_ati.dll unless these happen to use more CPU

Isn't this disgusting how much faster properly optimized drivers of any sort can be? HTC/Qualcomm just cannot code/implement. Now if more driver files from either Toshiba G810, or the Omnia show up, yay!

felix: I don't know of any D3D apps besides the samples that come from HTC-CA. I think most developers avoid D3D because it's broken on most devices.

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Originally Posted by NuShrike (Post 2515240)

I did some Googling and there's 3 types of drivers used in Windows Mobile:

reference: for CETK golden image testing
software: written by MS, okay for production release/use
optimized: written by OEM to support hardware acceleration

Somehow, HTC is getting away with shipping the reference driver which MS supposedly has forbidden for release/redistribution (according to a Don Couch). This reference driver does a bunch of quality checking and comparisons internally that is never used in a production release. Think of it as you're driving your car and checking the fluid levels, tire pressure, tread level, aerodynamics, etc every second.

So, this Samsung XSCALE is the driver HTC is supposed to have released if they couldn't have a Qualcomm optimized version because it at least uses the HWA that the ARMv5 XSCALE supports and standardized in our ARMv6.

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Originally Posted by sakajati (Post 2515985)

Thanks for your comments and analysis.

I did some googling too and found out actually this driver had been discussed/mentioned on many sites including MSDN since a few years a go :eek::D

If we could get some improved 2d software drivers we'd really be flying. Here's hoping!

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Originally Posted by mikee4fun (Post 379991)

Actually it will if you cook it into a rom image with the oem I made and posted. For the cab yeah it won't stick.

That's why I threw in there "unless they are included" ;)

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this seems to work on the touch as well

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Originally Posted by 92GTA (Post 379942)

lol, let's not go that far. Until someone releases a hack that quadruples our RAM and doubles our screen resolution, I'm still looking forward to the Touch Pro. 3D acceleration was not by any means the only thing missing from the Mogul. Personally, I never have time to play 3D games on this thing, so while this is very cool, it also provides me no personal benefit (although I can see why it's especially exciting for some). The faster processor and drastic increase in RAM on the Touch Pro are the only things that can solve the problems that haven't been solved by people like no2chem.

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More RAM would definetly be nice, but it's almost sickening to see the difference brought about merely by software driver optimizations that HTC should have been including. I've never been one of the ones yelling about drivers (or the lack thereof), but this might make me change that stance. Going from 3fps on the 800w's D3DDemo, to 90+fps with the Omnia driver is appalling. Imagine the real world performance gain we'd see if we can get updated 2d software drivers. I honestly don't even care about hardware acceleration now. I just want the thing to work like it's supposed to. Like every Samsung, Treo, etc. does thanks to properly functioning drivers. The Titan's RAM really is killing me, but I could probably hold out a little longer if some 2d drivers pop up.

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will this work on a sprint touch? anyone tried it?

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Originally Posted by savior02 (Post 380086)

will this work on a sprint touch? anyone tried it?

According to a post on XDA, yes.

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Originally Posted by TurboFool (Post 380131)

According to a post on XDA, yes.

i tried on the touch i am sending back and yes it does work, seems to play my videos a bit better.

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at first i was skeptical but after trying it, wow!

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Is it just me or does anyone else think that browsing with Skyfire feels way faster after the driver install?

[pt]

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Unfortunately, its doubtful that performance increases in video playback/Skyfire/etc are anything more than placebo. This is an improvement in 3d performance only, and per NuShrike, few developers utilize D3D. Some 3d games *may* play better, but for now that is probably about it. Oh, and you can now stare at shiny, spinny objects at a much more pleasing speed than you could before :)

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al right guys whats the verdict? placebo or not?

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Works great. Now when I press the message button, my email comes up, and stays up. Before it would come up, then fall back to the "Today" screen, and I would have to press the email button again....:headbang:

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haha jumpyball is badass with this driver. no more lag. too bad its the only 3d app ive got.

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"Somehow, HTC is getting away with shipping the reference driver which MS supposedly has forbidden for release/redistribution (according to a Don Couch). This reference driver does a bunch of quality checking and comparisons internally that is never used in a production release. Think of it as you're driving your car and checking the fluid levels, tire pressure, tread level, aerodynamics, etc every second."

Ummmm... if this was forbidden... why are we all letting HTC get away with it? That's my question... Microsoft should even have stepped in at some point and told them to get with the program!

Anyway, I don't see much of a point of putting this on my device... now if someone can get OpenGL and 2D working, then I'd be interested lol

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Works great for me too.

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Dont know if this is the best place to post this, but including the 3d drivers in ppckitchen buildos causes the "error building default.hv..." error. Its included in the newwest PPCGeeks_OEM.rar, and whenever I check it in the list I get an error. I have not tried to manually drop the oem from post #7 yet, but the one included with buildos is definately messed up..... took me about 2 hours of checking and unchecking stuff, but I finally found it......

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So does anyone know any games that run off D3DM?

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Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant (Post 380373)

So does anyone know any games that run off D3DM?

jumpyball. kind of like that old game for mac, marble blast. runs smoother with these drivers.

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I can't silence my ringer using the scroll wheel during incoming call with this program. Had to uninstall.

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Originally Posted by aznmode (Post 380473)

I can't silence my ringer using the scroll wheel during incoming call with this program. Had to uninstall.

Random glitch, I'd say. Working fine here. This only replaces one very specific, and apparently rarely used, dll. There is little chance of random adverse effects (or beneficial effects, for that matter).

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Originally Posted by nick aguas (Post 380424)

jumpyball. kind of like that old game for mac, marble blast. runs smoother with these drivers.

That game is hard with a 5-way dpad... damn HTC for not giving us a 4-way with a center button!

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Originally Posted by vinscuzzy (Post 380361)

Ditto here with the error. I cooked a ROM, flashed it, then added just the driver to what I already had then saved it and got the error during the build.

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Yeah so on the original XDA link, there is a zip file of sample programs... you can definitely tell its not hardware acceleration but software as has been mentioned because there is zero anti-aliasing going on.

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Ok, WHY DOESN'T THE OP HAVE MORE THANKS?!

This is an amazing discovery! And I finally met a fellow jumpyball player!!

You should also try Virtual Pool mobile. Great app!

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\D3DM\Drivers]
"LocalHook"="D3DMXSc50PB.dll"

I could be wrong but I think you guys are experiencing a placebo effect ... my reason for saying this is because my driver line on some of my roms read

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\D3DM\Drivers]
"LocalHook"="d3dm_ati.dll"

meaning I had added the diamond d3dm drivers there are no differences in my performance from the htc_d3dm.dll ......

like I said I could be wrong but I may have even read some where that this local hook driver have something to do with the camera and that is about it