for those that are new...
 

its been a while...
and I basically got the gist of most of things by reading for hours on end.

but... there are some things I just cannot find out... and I've read that some people don't get it either but they just run programs trying to figure out what it does, or what it is.


but anyways... we need an update on what certain terms or words or numbers or acronyms.

like these?


PPST
SPL
radio
build vs kitchen
(I think I know what those are but what I'm trying to clarify with this is, since builds are actually put together by more registry savvy individuals, would they be more stable than kitchens? are kitchens less stable bc you get to choose which programs go into the system and some times things need to be done to make sure all programs run properly?)

builds vs roms.
flavors
5067, 5770 and 20226 and 20270

why do some people just update the ruu and not build a whole install program. and if they do update the ruu, where is the install program?

why do some people use olipro unlocker and some people use spl unlocker? and does it matter which one you use?

why does no2chem's builds say nueROM... is it someone else's he's building on?

anyways thats all the questions i can think of now if you have any terns you don't know then put it up here? maybe we can sticky it and update whole lists as we go along... ill do it if it gets big enough.

Re: for those that are new...
 

Actually alot of the questions you are asking about can all be found by taking a little time researching it. I remember a couple of years ago when I found out about ppcgeeks, at the time I had my dear ppc6700 and I didn't know jack about all this custom stuff. But I took my time reading so many different threads over and over again then finally found the balls to start flashing. Now when the mogul came out it was like starting all over again, I had to read all the new stuff that was happening with the mogul and research some more before I started flashing again. Honestly if you really want to flash your phone and maximize its performance, its definitely worth the time researching since there is no real easy way of explaining it regardless of how many stickies there are.

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Wow that's a lot of question :shock:

PPST - not sure how to explain this one
SPL - this is your bootloader (can be either stock, olipro, or nueSPL)
radio - this is what you upgrade to get GPS and ReV A

build vs kitchen - build refers to build number in "about" on the OS
kitchen is where you can cook a ROM, for diff builds theres diff kitchens

5067 and 5770 are no2chem's ROMs (he has his own numbering system)

and 20226 and 20270 are builds (taken from other WMDs)

RUU is the ROM Update Utility

Some people use Olipro 2.40, while other use the NueSPL 2.47 -
either can be used, but NueSPL can only be installed from SD Card AFTER you upgrade to GPS Rom

NueRom is what no2chem has chosen to call his ROMs :D

That's about all the answers i can think of...

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ok buddy... im sorry... but if you check your sign in date vs mine I will tell you that I've been doing this longer than you. check pdaphonehome.com... we started with the same phone. and so if you knew... why don't you answer either like how the guy after answered. or linked me a thread that was to be productive. and if you want to tell me what to do like search... atleast take into assumption that I did do that. but i couldn't find it. or my questions were ignored bc it was kinda off topic.

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Don't take this the wrong way, but your ADHD might be getting the best of you here. Perhaps you should write your posts first in notepad, let them rest for an hour, and, if it is still important enough and you are really sure that's what you want to say, then post. Otherwise, the 'normals' might not quite understand your intentions...

-Doc

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honestly if you would read the stickies it would be very helpful to you i know some info is hard to find but i have spent many many hours reading and working on this and now i am developing my own ROM. you must be patient while reading the forums. you must master the search function and not expect info to just jump out at you. if you ask for info please do not lash out at all the posts in the thread that tell you to search. people have said that alot of your info could be found with reading and searching and alot of it can. just pull up a comfy chair and be ready to read.

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Check the link in my signature for the tutorial. It has a few definitions in one of the post that may help you answer a few questions.

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i have searched... and I have seen people say I was having problems with (xxx) and I didn't know what ppst was and I ran it... and it didn't do anything noticeable. Im very hesitant about trying things on my phone bc unlike some people who has things like test phones, and stuff like that. I don't have that luxury. I remember i broke my usb plug and it took me 4 months to get a new phone. have neither have the time or the money to do that. and yes it may be repairable by throwing into boot loader mode. but... yea... and really... with my wifey getting mad about every second i spend on the computer. just think about if i start cooking. so ...

I do apologize for the flaring up. but... I have searched. and reading 56 pages of one thread HOPING to see if anyone says anything about ppst and such. i was pretty sure i knew what the difference between a build and a kitchen was... i know what a cook is and i know what SPL and radios (sort of) and yea i didn't know that n2c's named his builds different from his name. bc everyone else uses thier own names. so i thought he modded someone elses build and made it better. or put his own twist.

im sorry.

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thanks i have actually used that link as a refresher course in before flashing my mogul/titan. soooo... yea...

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ok, everyone chill!!! oh and can someone tell me what PPST stands for?

@ knewBee4lyfe - in theory you should always advise if you have searched, such as the above, a quick google search will tell you that it updates the PRI - of course if anyone cares to elaborate...

@ themuffinman - i know he posted a huge list of mostly simple questions... and that its aggravating to see the same n00b questions over and over, but perhaps he did search? you know some people are better at searching than others... the best solution is to pick a thread.... and then respond with the usual... have you searched? n00b :read: look around !!! then add 'check out this thread' like Ga. Medic ;-)

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ppst is from the carrier and contains alot of carrier specific settings it can turn a verizon phone into a sprint and change it right back to a verizon phone. i personally do not know what it stands but i do know a little bit about what it does. carriers have an auto run after a flash that contains a script to run the ppst and this updates the pri and updates the settings.

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Thanks, now if only someone knew what PPST and/or EPST actually stands for

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well if you dont know what the EPST does i can tell you.

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yanno if u put out bait around here... someone will bite :D

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the EPST is also carrier specific it shows you your carrier settings you can start your data, change settings, update your roaming list, with the REV A ROMs you can change your data parameters which entails you enabling or disabling the REV A. you must be careful within your EPST since it does contain very sensitive carrier info.

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oh the good old disable/enable Rev A debate in ##EPST :D

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lets not reopen that again i was one of the people that tested that theory out then became more confused than ever. i am glad to help new people i mean i was a total newb 10 months ago. i had never owned a ppc and i wasnt very computer savy but i have learned alot over that amount of time. i am nowhere near the most knowledgeable person here but i have gathered quite a bit of knowledge thanx to this forum so i am glad to help the new members. i am not pointing this in any direction but all should do a thorough search before askin a question. i understand some info is really hard to find but alot of new members do not search at all.

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Look dude I really wasn't trying to be smart or not answer your questions, all I was saying is even if there were stickies spoon feeding everyone on every single detail there will still be someone asking a n00b question with someone replying with "did you read the stickies, did you search?" and then they would say yes but still wouldn't understand. And yes I signed on with ppcgeeks december/06 but that really means nothing. I have roamed pdaphonehome as well as ppcgeeks and xda long before I actually signed up. I really don't have alot to say on these forums, I just like to read and learn because all this tech stuff intrigues me. For example, I have been on this website just about everysingle day or every other day yet still I only have like 90 posts or something like that, thats because I like to read this stuff, and by reading I have learned and understood so much more.

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I couldn't agree more....I knew nothing about this phones potential or custom ROMS until I signed on to this forum....I like to help also because when I knew nothing a lot of people stepped up and taught me....I also did a ton of reading and asked for help in the chat rooms....which is a great tool for NOOBS!!! ......and searching is not always easy in here but as you said a lot of people do not search at all...( we know this because I can get a question and punch it up in the search engine and find 20 some threads on the subject) sometimes that is aggravating when people do not want to put any effort into there problem....SEARCH is everybody's friend in here.......but one way or another someone will help you out in here...never had a problem with that... (Puff is great for this, you just have to figure out what avatar is using for the day....lol)....

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It wont take too much more fussing and one of the mods will be in here giving away gum and butt woopins... and guess what, they all out of gum! But on a lighter note, reading ALL of the stickies will kill most questions, but if you need more info cut/paste the section you dont understand with a link to the stickie you are refering from, then ask from there, dont forget to include type of phone and carrier plus rom id. the more info you provide the better somone can help. Sometimes a certain mix doesnt bode well or reacts different. There is thousands of us out there so be calm and lets beat the problem:violent1:, not each other.:occasion5:

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ummm... we kinda got off topic here... and i guess i understand what ppst and now epst does. and all goody goody gum drops, lollipops and boogie bops... but maybe it would help out if some one can actually tell me what the acronym means...

Pre Pardon my Stupidity Team?
Punch People from Sprint Tech?
Posting People are So Talented?

Every Person Says Things?
Every Person has Social Tragedies?

EvDo Pretends speeds are True.


any who... yea... the explanation was great. but can anyone really say what the acronym stands for?

Re: for those that are new...
 

if you read the thread from my signature it'll help explain somethings! gl

Re: for those that are new...
 

Well, it seems like things have settled down a bit. And yes, there is alot of info to sift through. It seems that Puff as answered most of the questions, however.

And by searching for something like PPST, you are going to get a crapload of threads that don't necessarily explain the definition. So it really can help to just post a horde of questions AFTER you have searched, which is what the OP did.

MOVING ON: Puff, I'm looking into finding out what PPST means. I know what it does, but I don't know what it is

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PST = Phone Service Tool

PleaseStirMe

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What about the other "P"?......

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so i am guessing that nobody really knows what ppst stood for? or epst? bc no one really answered the question. lol...

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Not that I know, but I like

P(rovisioning)PST- sets up the down and dirty carrier settings.

and

E(mbedded)PST - let's you view/modify the down and dirty carrier settings.

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Now that clears this up....