Using Mogul as Modem
 

First time having to do this as going on trip but need to work (Yes, I know this sucks), is there a guide out there? I did a search and they seem to talk about more advanced problems but not the actual setup.

Should I just use PDAnet?

I would prefer a solution with no software to install, I'm fine with reg hacks etc.

Is this video valid? http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/147/...odem-for-free/

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pdanet is a very good option look into it

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Well, there can be a lot of variables, but it's essentially a three step process:

1) On your Mogul go to Start-->Programs-->Internet Sharing. Choose USB (or bluetooth if you're going that route) as your PC Connection, Sprint PCS as your Network Connection, and hit connect.

2) Plug USB cable into phone.

3) Plug other end of USB cable into computer.

Done.

*Assuming you are using a Windows PC with Activesync/Windows Mobile Device Center installed. If you are using the latest Sprint ROM (3.56) then a small registry edit is also in order. Post more details of your exact needs (type of computer/OS, ROM on phone, desired connection method, etc) and we'll have it ironed out in no time :)

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I am using my phone as a modem for the first time as well and I installed pdanet on my phone. It is working fine but I dont know if im going to be charged the PAM price for doing this. I am on the lastest rom, the official 6.1 one from htc/sprint. Any insight? Thanks

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using pdanet circumvents the pam policy...

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I don't think I've actually seen someone post this, but is this simply because people select "Sprint PCS" vs "Phone as Modem"?

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i might be wrong as i have never used pdanet but i believe it "camoflouges" the phones internet connection. it fools sprint into thinking the phone is using its regular internet and not "tethered" to a computer instead of realizing the truth. I'm sure someone will correct me if im wrong lol. Personally i would rather use a reg hack and internet sharing on the device since its free.

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Honestly, I've never seen a shred of evidence that suggests PDANet does anything to "hide" the fact that your tethering. PDANet, USBModem, WModem, etc all merely emulate a dial-up modem, allowing your PC to see it as such. Then you use normal dialing rules just as your phone does on its own - ie, dial #777 and enter a username/password if your network requires it.

Carrier efforts to curb tethering are usually crude. Verizon typically just removes or hides Internet Sharing and/or WModem. Sprint typically includes the apps, as they do offer PAM plans, but attempt to restrict dialing #777 unless you actually have PAM on your account. In the past, rilphone.dll was used to block those data calls, resulting in all those error 67 messages. Recently, Sprint merely used the ForceCellConnection reg key to lock Internet Sharing to the Phone as Modem profile. I'm not entirely sure that even does anything though, because I can connect just fine using that profile and I've never been charged, or even seen any differences noted on my bill. And I don't have PAM on my account. It might be worth looking into what settings actually differ between the PAM and Sprint PCS profiles.

I don't think they really have anything in place to "detect" that you are tethering. Even their 5GB caps on data cards and PAM plans don't appear to be affecting non-PAM tethering, leading me to believe that they just really aren't paying attention. It seems strange that these major networks would be so lax with their usage restrictions, but that is the way it seems to be. I've used every phone I've ever owned on Sprint and Verizon (including several dumb-phones) to connect to their data networks. All you need are the appropriate drivers and the right dialing rules.

There is always someone, often an employee, who will tell you that the networks know exactly what is going on, that they are watching us, and that you are going to be charged thousands of dollars. I've never seen any creditable support of any of this though. Outside of maybe some idiot that uses it as their only internet connection and downloads hundreds of GBs of data per month, I'd say it is fairly safe. That said, I'd encourage everyone not to abuse the system. Appreciate the fact that you have speedy internet access when you really need it. Let's not ruin a good thing.

Different opinions, comments?

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I'm using no2chem's ROM, which I suspect removes any of the PAM functionality, as I have yet to be charged by Sprint for my phone-as-modem use.

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I have been wanting to do this as well, but I haven't been able to install wmwifimodem on any of no2chem's 2.2pre roms ("not digitally signed with a trusted certificate" error). Could you share how you are able to do your tethering, and if you are able to use wifi to share with the computer? Thanks.

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I'll be bringing my work laptop so not sure I can install Activesync or not.

I have the latest Sprint ROM (3.56) - what registry change do I need?

Windows OS, desired connection can be USB or wireless

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If you can't install Activesync, you will not be able to use Internet Sharing. If your work laptop has Bluetooth (which most don't) you can still try to use Internet Sharing via a Personal Area Network (PAN).

As companies typically restrict installing new hardware to Administrator accounts, you will probably not be able to use PDANet, USBModem, etc either. Those programs allow the phone to simulate being a simple dial-up modem, which of course is hardware that has to be installed.

Since you have a Mogul, your best bet would be to share your connection over WiFi. Virtually all laptops have Wifi, and it's *usually* not restricted. If the new version of PDANet allows sharing over WiFi, you can try that. I have no experience with it, so I'm going to recommend either WMWiFiRouter or ICSControl. WMWiFiRouter was freeware up until version .91, ICSControl remains free for the latest version. ICSControl has a lot of nice features, but it is more complicated to set up. WMWiFiRouter would probably be your best bet for a one click, simple setup. I can post version .91 if you'd like, or you can look into PDANet's WiFi capabilities.

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Can you the post the version of WMWiFiRouter if that is allowed? Thanks! I was thinking WiFi might be best since if others have laptops, they could use the signal also.

For any of this, are registry changes needed? It was mentioned above.

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Confirmed, I cannot install ActiveSync on my work laptop.

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You can edit the ForceCellConnection string value under HKey_Local_Machine\Comm\InternetSharing\Settings to say "Sprint PCS," or delete it entirely to get back the option to switch between Sprint PCS and Phone as Modem within the Internet Sharing app. I'd just set it at Sprint PCS, that way you don't have to worry about it in the future. There is a cab floating around somewhere to import the reg entry for you, if you're not comfortable editing it yourself.

I've attached v.91 of WMWiFiRouter. This cab will also set up an adhoc WiFi network for you with the name "Free Viruses!!" (you can change the name, or set up your own peer-to-peer/adhoc network if you want, that is just the name I chose). Make sure your WiFi switch is in the on position before activating the program. Give it a try and let us know if you have any more questions :)

Edit: Sorry, give me just a second to upload the cab.

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bedoig - I installed the software and left the network settings/name from the cab.

I started it up and checked the peer networks on my work laptop and was able to see it. I'm assuming that is success.

I also made the reg change. Final question, what does it do?

Thanks a ton!

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On the latest ROM (3.56), Sprint removed the option in Internet Sharing to choose between "Sprint PCS" and "Phone as Modem" connection profiles. Presumably this was an effort to stop unauthorized tethering. The reg change simply sets the default dialing profile to "Sprint PCS."

Sounds like your setup is working, but you might want to disconnect from your company internet connection and verify you are getting a connection through your phone before you hit the road. Sometimes the program can be a little flaky, but a soft reset will usually fix any connection issues you run into.

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With rom 3.56 update, in order to use your phone as modem, you have to change some setting first by using PHM RegEdit to edit comm as mentioned above. Under HKEY_Local Machine/Comm/InternetSharing/Setting/ForceCellConne to Sprint PCS instead of Phone as Modem, soft reset and then you should be able to use phone as modem to connect laptop or pc.

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For the past year, I have been cooking WModem (as well as wmwifirouter) into all of my roms and been using that for tethering. Works great for everything I do.

And apparently I'm "one of those idiots" because I use my phone as my sole internet connection. I torrent on it, surf the internet, play WoW and download music/movies. I probably download several gigs of data of month (definitely over 5GB) and have NEVER seen a charge for it on my bill. Sure the new billing system tracks your usage now online, but they have never once sent me anything regarding it.

I'm happy with the speed anyway. 2.4 Mbps for $10/mo?? Sure does beat the $40 for the 1.5Mbps available at my apartment.

So use a program like wmodem or wmwifirouter. They work great.

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Can't you just delete the "isext.dll" extenstion found under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing and have it work instead of switching Phone as Modem to Sprint PCS?

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Maybe, I really don't know. That extension doesn't exist on the ROM I'm running, and I don't remember seeing it when I was one the official ROM (maybe I just missed it). Are you running the official 3.56? Does anyone else see that extension?

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I'm running the Official 3.56.651.0 ROM

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I do have that file but I would be more worried about deleting a DLL that making a registry key value change.

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ISEXT.DLL stand for "Internet Sharing Extension" It's the same as the other "extension.dll" key that you have to delete in the older rom under the same registry key in order to disable the data errors. I found this one too, in place of the other and I deleted it, and I was able to use internet sharing after a soft reset.

You'll be fine if you delete it.

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Then make a backup of that key....

It's not going to bork your phone. You can just add it back if you need to..

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what if you have the sero plan? When it states that you have unlimited data and unlimited web. will they over look the teething since you have that plan. Or will they still charge you for it. if anyone has a answer can you pm. i don't sign on that much and i might get lost somewhere in the threads. thanks in advance.

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i would like to know that question too

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see this thread... the steps outlined worked for me on my Touch phone with the 6.1 update

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10949

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I just used the cab attached and worked great with No2Chem pre8 2.2 rom wm6.1, although you stated that it was v.91 and in the about it says .89? what are the changes between the two some said the .91 was the last stable version do you have another cab floating around? I was surprised it works because many people have said that .91 will not work on the new No2 builds. Well thank because it does work i am just wondering if I am missing anything?

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I was fairly certain that the version I posted was .91. I could be wrong, but I'd guess that the "About" section simply wasn't updated between .89 and .91. Either way, if it is working well for you then I wouldn't worry about it. I have a license for the new, commercial version, and honestly I still use this version a lot. It is lighter, and initializes faster than the new versions. I've been using ICSControl a lot more these days as well. WMWiFiRouter v1.2 sounds promising though, so I'm gonna give that a shot whenever the public beta starts.

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Can you give me an idea on what the settings should look like for ICS control I also have that installed but it looks intimidating with all those settings, maybe you can point me in the right direction of what to change the settings to. thanks again for the cab it was quick and painless.

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It is really only as complicated as you want to make it. Your "Public Interface" is, as the name suggests, simply going to be your connection to the outside world. Typically this will be your cellular line (unless your trying to do something fancy, like using your phone as a USB WiFi card for your non-WiFi enabled PC). Your "Private Interface" is how you are going to share your connection locally. To achieve the same functionality as WMWiFiRouter, you will need to choose your WLAN card (TNETW12511 on the Mogul) as your private interface. Then I just set my private IP as the conventional 192.168.0.1 (not totally necessary, but it keeps things simple) and hit "Start ICS."

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/...d394ec4f52.jpg

*Note - before starting ICS, you will need to have an adhoc WiFi network already set up. Then go into your WiFi control panel and select Computer-to-Computer connections only.

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Thank alot for the help, tried for the first time and works with sucess. You can actually use you mogul as a usb wifi card? that's a really neat feature is there a tutorial i can read for ICS control that you now of so I dont have to bug you for those setttings?

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I'm not sure if there is a tutorial anywhere or not, but you could try the thread at XDA where the developer posted this program. I don't have a link handy, but it should be easy to find if you search ICSControl over there.

The beauty of this program is that you can share connections any way you please (although I believe this kind of ability is supposed to be introduced in WMWifiRouter v1.2 as well). For the example of using your Mogul as a USB Wifi card, you would just set TNETW12511 as your Public Interface and RNDISFN1 (that's your USB connection) as your Private Interface.

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Sweet i will give that a try when I get home. Thanks for all your help.

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You can delete the "ForceCellConnection" folder if u want the Internet Sharing app to look like how it was on the previous ROM versions.

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thanks man your the best! been looking for weeks for this program works great. i only have one question. it seems to be working without starting ie first. it should still be tethering using the sprint pcs connection only right meaning sprint should just see it as just normal data usage, no charges right. i did do the reg edits. man your awsome man. just downloaded cab then i was good to go. whoooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo! one more ? the unlimted simply everything plan, is it or is it not limited to 5gb now. i keep seeing yes and no. anybody with a fosho answer?

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Hey...Well I got some of the same questions here is my problem...
I was using Wmodem on my mogul for awhile with no problems. I connected to my old Laptop(no Wifi, or Bluetooth) as my primary connection. Well that Mogul took a crap not because of the internet sharing, just speaker and mic to talk on the phone didnt work. So sprint replaced it, I have a new one.

Well let me get to the point...I downloaded the new rom 3.56.
Just want to know the best way to use the internet sharing thru USB and not wifi or bluetooth cause my Laptop is old...lol. I know I need a new laptop...Thanks for telling me.

Any help would be appreciated....Thanks again.