smallest rom AKA "spartian"
 

Looking for the smallest rom that supports the telenav and basic hardware for the mogul. and will leave me with the most usable memory.

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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/search.php
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=57

Re: smallest rom AKA "spartian"
 

done that Dc, but they all have extra dialers, themes and other system BS (other carriers) that I dont need. All I want is a "bare bones" rom for a sprint mogul no extras just the bare esentials to make the phone work. I dont want skins, I-contacts or anything else, I have all the extra cabs. thanks for the quick reply tho.

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They don't come much 'leaner' than DCD's...IMHO. You might try cooking one yourself in the PPC kitchen.

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I want to try it but isnt the 6.1 unstable?

Re: smallest rom AKA "spartian"
 

no 6.1 i feel runs better then 6.0

Re: smallest rom AKA "spartian"
 

ya, your best bet is loading up ppc kitchen, use no2chem 5060, select sprint. and run the ROM builder. that would be very barebones.

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Im on it now, thanks!

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You know elmer, this won't gain you any space, right?

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Well I like the 5060, and compared to the stock there is a bit more room and speed, and the abillity to play with the extras is nice. You have any other suggestions Nuguy? ,or anyone else for that matter? I noticed that the mogul has 256 mb of flash, has anyone tried to reallocate the partitions to make more program memory? if the sd can be programed to hold the rom then the rom on the flash could be removed thus freeing up space...right?

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It's Spartan not Spartian

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This Is Sparta!!!!!!!!

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Very wrong, actually. Flash ROM and system memory are extremely different from each other, with huge differences in speed, and write limits to the flash. As well, installing applications to the external memory is usually very problematic, not to mention unreliable. You pop out your card for any reason and your system crashes. No good. But it's also likely a lot slower than the flash memory in the phone. So add to that actually trying to boot your entire OS from it, and you're in trouble (assuming that was even physically possible). Your ideas are nice in theory, but completely impossible in application.

As for your main question, a "smaller ROM" won't leave you with more system memory. It'll just take up less storage space. no2chem's current ROMs boot with something in the range of 27MB of free system memory, which is fantastic. Otherwise, yes, build your own using the kitchen and remove everything you don't need. But I doubt it will improve your available system memory by much, if at all. And WM6.1 is in my experience (especially in the latest builds) MORE stable than 6.0, and with better memory management. You won't see a tenth as many out-of-memory errors as in 6.0.

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I haven't seen ANY out of memory errors on the newer 506* builds...

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My programs just close themselves. :P

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lol, that's true. I've actually seen two or three out-of-memory errors on my phone since going to 6.1, but that's a drastic improvement. I haven't had a lot of auto-closing lately, though. I'm often surprised by what apps are still open on mine when I look.

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Yeah its rare that things auto-close... seems to me that it tends to happen whenever PIE is open... at least with my config.

But I agree - I've definitely been surprised... I had Opera Mini running in Jbed and Opera Mobile 9.5 1126 running at the same time and both were totally responsive - that was with HTC Home, text messages, and a few other small apps running in the background.

Re: smallest rom AKA "spartian"
 

So far I have reflashed 4 or five times (so many choices!) and my little monster is working great, not to mention having the extended rom unlocked is nice for the extra space. BTW the mogul can read the 8 gig microsd :headbang: (best buy got them for $75). I will start to work on creating my own rom to put me back to my favorite setup. Glad my main job gives me plenty of time online to read. Total commander will do the job I think, but I could be wrong...