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dzuchowski 06-23-2008 03:27 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by Alpine- (Post 322822)
Ok, so I knew there were some issues with HTC phones not being able to send MMS on sprint network. I recall a article where sprint said they were trying to work on getting it working and it was some kind of design issue. Right about that time the hacked Arcsoft solution stopped working.



So I guess it has been confirmed, 100%, that along with the native threaded SMS in wm6.1 we will also have fully working MMS over sprint networks? I took a picture of a funnel cloud yesterday on the road and wanted to send it to a friend. I then remembered how lame it was not to have working MMS and my "jimmy rigged" Arcsoft quasi-MMS solution was no longer working.

Thanks for bringing me up to date on this.

In regard to SprintTV - Does this mean we can simply run the program and it comes pre-loaded on the ROM but we have no subscriptions for anything. In other words, we cant really view anything anyway? Or do they plan to allow at least some basic channels (i.e. CNN, etc.)? I have a SERO package and I have managed to get SprintTV up and running with current ROM but I cant really access anything due to subscriptions. I was able to access 5-6 channels a few months ago but that has since changed. To what extent can a standard (or SERO) user expect to have in terms of access to channels?

since when is email not considered mms? I use ###-###-####@sprinctpcs.com to send pic mail, real simple, just like from my home pc what could be easier then that?

bestjudge 06-23-2008 04:04 PM

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I use email to send mms ...works good for me!

For other Sprint users, 10digitnumber@pm.sprint.com
For Verizon users, 10digitnumber@vzwpix.com
For T-Mobile users, 10digitnumber@tmomail.net
For Cingular users, 10digitnumber@mms.mycingular.co

qbunnie 06-23-2008 06:04 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by dzuchowski (Post 323110)
since when is email not considered mms? I use ###-###-####@sprinctpcs.com to send pic mail, real simple, just like from my home pc what could be easier then that?

I would definitely say email is not MMS. MMS is when you type in a number for any of the carriers, not an email address, to send a picture, video, or sound file. That would be easier than trying to know the the carrier email server for all of your friends. Also, it is easier to send the pic (or other multimedia) directly from the capture interface (i.e. camera).
On the flip side, some people are somewhat annoyed that Sprint forces users to use a web browser to see pictures online when using smartphones. Standard phones have pictures delivered directly to the phone using the MMS application.
That is what most users considered MMS.
Sure, MMS is based off of email, so is SMS. But I wouldn't say if you have email you have MMS. More like you have limited MMS or just the ability to email multimedia, not a true Multimedia Messaging Service.

qbunnie 06-23-2008 06:07 PM

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Also, please check sMMS out. Its hosted right here at PPCGeeks, and its a great program that pretty much solves any of the no-MMS gripes people have had. Even if you were fine just emailing pics, I still recommend you check it out. It's free for basic functionality, so you have nothing to lose. IMO, its a MUST-HAVE program.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=22509

kidmet 06-24-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueArsenic (Post 322856)
Wow.. i wish people would seriously just listen to James. Take a second and read the thread before you make your 5th post on PPCGeeks based off something you googled, or otherwise have no idea about. It sucks to see the correct information posted then re-posted over and over for all the new kids in the class who don't have the patience, or courtesy to read the frickin thread.

James said MID JULY for the ROM... MMS WON'T BE INCLUDED... IT WILL COME SEPARATELY LATER THIS SUMMER.

/rant


Guess James wasn't right?

cj10488 06-24-2008 05:41 PM

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As you noticed it wasnt Sprint that Released it... Not yet anyways... It was not scheduled until Mid July.. However that could be due to wanting to release the touch rom first who knows... I have not been able to get a hold of my contact as of yet to find out any dates... Who knows maybe they worked overtime and decided it was stable now and plan to release it now... Well probably wont officially see it on the site for a while but who knows..

James

dzuchowski 06-25-2008 09:35 AM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qbunnie (Post 323307)
I would definitely say email is not MMS. MMS is when you type in a number for any of the carriers, not an email address, to send a picture, video, or sound file. That would be easier than trying to know the the carrier email server for all of your friends. Also, it is easier to send the pic (or other multimedia) directly from the capture interface (i.e. camera).
On the flip side, some people are somewhat annoyed that Sprint forces users to use a web browser to see pictures online when using smartphones. Standard phones have pictures delivered directly to the phone using the MMS application.
That is what most users considered MMS.
Sure, MMS is based off of email, so is SMS. But I wouldn't say if you have email you have MMS. More like you have limited MMS or just the ability to email multimedia, not a true Multimedia Messaging Service.

Then dont purchase a windows mobile phone, I mean the name says it alll... WINDOWS, if i want my windows mobile phone to act like cellphone I would of purchased a LG Muziq. All i do is place the ###-###-####@sprintpcs.com into my contact list for any sprint users and their easy as pie. I do the same for vzw.... Also if someone wants to send me a pic then just send it to my yahoo account and my phone will access my yahoo account and i will have the pic just like pic mail.

kidmet 06-25-2008 02:08 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by dzuchowski (Post 325295)
Then dont purchase a windows mobile phone, I mean the name says it alll... WINDOWS, if i want my windows mobile phone to act like cellphone I would of purchased a LG Muziq. All i do is place the ###-###-####@sprintpcs.com into my contact list for any sprint users and their easy as pie. I do the same for vzw.... Also if someone wants to send me a pic then just send it to my yahoo account and my phone will access my yahoo account and i will have the pic just like pic mail.

Or pay $5 for sMMS. If you can't spare $5, there is a free version too. This is an easy fix if you look around. Like MOST (not all) other issues with the phone.

badutahboy 06-25-2008 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dzuchowski (Post 325295)
Then dont purchase a windows mobile phone, I mean the name says it alll... WINDOWS, if i want my windows mobile phone to act like cellphone I would of purchased a LG Muziq. All i do is place the ###-###-####@sprintpcs.com into my contact list for any sprint users and their easy as pie. I do the same for vzw.... Also if someone wants to send me a pic then just send it to my yahoo account and my phone will access my yahoo account and i will have the pic just like pic mail.

The name says NOTHING... Other windows phones have REAL mms... that same real mms worked on sprint phones until sprint disabled it... Clearly, it's not an issue with the phones, but with sprint refusing to pay to license a real MMS program.

but again, the name WINDOWS says absolutely nothing about MMS limitations.

dzuchowski 06-27-2008 11:35 AM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by badutahboy (Post 325868)
The name says NOTHING... Other windows phones have REAL mms... that same real mms worked on sprint phones until sprint disabled it... Clearly, it's not an issue with the phones, but with sprint refusing to pay to license a real MMS program.

but again, the name WINDOWS says absolutely nothing about MMS limitations.

i fail to see your point, this is a pc first and a phone second. on a pc you send via email.. so whats the big deal man?

p-slim 06-27-2008 12:24 PM

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To make everything simple just use this-

[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Alltel - #@message.alltel.com
AT&T - #@mms.att.net
Boost Mobile - #@myboostmobile.com
Nextel - #@messaging.nextel.com
Sprint - #@pm.sprint.com
T-Mobile - #@tmomail.net
US Cellular - #@mms.uscc.net
Verizon - #@vzwpix.com
Virgin Mobile - #@vmobl.com
[/FONT]

David737 06-28-2008 05:54 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by kidmet (Post 297739)
Anyone have guesses, insider info, or other leads on when the new ROM will be released? I have read June 1st on here before, but that's a Saturday, isn't it?

This was thread was started on May 28 with the above quote. www.brighthand.com on Friday June 27 said "soon". A good friend with his ear to the ground told me he believed it would be Tuesday July 1.

Anyone have a date with some facts to offer? Thanks. !!!

bakntyme 06-28-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by David737 (Post 330136)
Anyone have a date

Yes, we went to a movie tonight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David737 (Post 330136)
with some facts to offer? Thanks. !!!

The cheetah is the fastest land animal.

qbunnie 06-29-2008 12:10 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dzuchowski (Post 325295)
Then dont purchase a windows mobile phone, I mean the name says it alll... WINDOWS, if i want my windows mobile phone to act like cellphone I would of purchased a LG Muziq. All i do is place the ###-###-####@sprintpcs.com into my contact list for any sprint users and their easy as pie. I do the same for vzw.... Also if someone wants to send me a pic then just send it to my yahoo account and my phone will access my yahoo account and i will have the pic just like pic mail.

Wtf are you talking about? I never said anything about buying a windows PDA phone vs a regular phone. And I wouldn't say that a pocket PC is a PC first, phone second. I definitely use my Mogul as a phone (calling, texting, MMS) just as much as I do email, browse the internet, etc.
You stated MMS is included on windows mobile. It's not. Simple as that. Email is included, MMS isn't. Email does not = multimedia messaging system.
You don't know which carrier all your friends are on, so the #@carrier.com system fails there. MMS won't.
This thread is way off topic.

p-slim 06-29-2008 12:36 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David737 (Post 330136)
This was thread was started on May 28 with the above quote. www.brighthand.com on Friday June 27 said "soon". A good friend with his ear to the ground told me he believed it would be Tuesday July 1.

Anyone have a date with some facts to offer? Thanks. !!!

the new rom has already been leaked. here is the thread to the official sprint rom, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=30072

dallas contractor 06-29-2008 12:44 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by p-slim (Post 330847)
the new rom has already been leaked. here is the thread to the official sprint rom, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=30072

I think most everyone nows that by going thru this site if you are mogel owner and a member.

p-slim 06-29-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dallas contractor (Post 330857)
I think most everyone nows that by going thru this site if you are mogel owner and a member.

Obviously the guy who i replied to his thread didn't know that!

johnrr6 06-29-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
I cannot adjust the backlight on my Mogul using this new ROM. The screen is nice and bright so it looks like it is defaulting to a bright or the brightest level----but you cannot move the adjustment sliders at all.

Anyone else experience this? Suggestions??

banzaiwolfe 06-29-2008 06:19 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by johnrr6 (Post 331171)
I cannot adjust the backlight on my Mogul using this new ROM. The screen is nice and bright so it looks like it is defaulting to a bright or the brightest level----but you cannot move the adjustment sliders at all.

Anyone else experience this? Suggestions??

I just tried out the backlight on 3.56, and it seems to be working properly on my Mogul.

dzuchowski 06-29-2008 06:42 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by qbunnie (Post 330833)
Wtf are you talking about? I never said anything about buying a windows PDA phone vs a regular phone. And I wouldn't say that a pocket PC is a PC first, phone second. I definitely use my Mogul as a phone (calling, texting, MMS) just as much as I do email, browse the internet, etc.
You stated MMS is included on windows mobile. It's not. Simple as that. Email is included, MMS isn't. Email does not = multimedia messaging system.
You don't know which carrier all your friends are on, so the #@carrier.com system fails there. MMS won't.
This thread is way off topic.

a windows mobile is a computer first phone second otherwise it would ob been called mobile windows and not windows mobile. I expect my wm device to act like my pc. I can goto http://www.fonefinder.net/ and the site will tell me who the provider is for that number. Thus I know what carrier to send it to.... Even apple does not support mms. MMS i think is for lazy users who dont want to take the time to find out who is on what carrier.

johnrr6 06-29-2008 07:06 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by banzaiwolfe (Post 331184)
I just tried out the backlight on 3.56, and it seems to be working properly on my Mogul.

Thank you----don't know what is up....

Must be a setting somewhere that I have to check or uncheck....

banzaiwolfe 06-29-2008 07:12 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrr6 (Post 331236)
Thank you----don't know what is up....

Must be a setting somewhere that I have to check or uncheck....

I don't know that it would matter or not, but I upgraded from the last official ROM, 3.35

qbunnie 06-30-2008 11:23 AM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dzuchowski (Post 331214)
a windows mobile is a computer first phone second otherwise it would ob been called mobile windows and not windows mobile. I expect my wm device to act like my pc. I can goto http://www.fonefinder.net/ and the site will tell me who the provider is for that number. Thus I know what carrier to send it to.... Even apple does not support mms. MMS i think is for lazy users who dont want to take the time to find out who is on what carrier.

That is a very weak point. Just because it is called windows mobile doesn't mean its a PC first. The HTC Shift, that is a PC first, phone second.
I'll tell you what, you take you good work ethic and look up you 'friends' carriers, and then what the carrier email is, and email them your pictures. I don't f-ing care. I will be 'lazy' and use sMMS, and maybe Sprint/Microsoft's MMS program when that comes out later. It doesn't matter a SINGLE bit to me. And what's this about apple? Just because apply doesn't have it, you don't want it? that's cute. I don't know I'm even arguing with you about this. The ONLY thing I wanted to get across was that email is not, in fact, MMS. It has a secondary function that will substitute for MMS. You haven't disagreed, just given me reasons why MMS is for the lazy. How does that help? It's just insulting. And it doesn't even make sense.
I don't know why I'm wasting my time arguing with you. This is WAY off topic. You know what? I'll give you the last shot, in the interest of everybody. So go ahead and reply and tell me that I'm fat and lazy and how the Mogul can play Crysis. I won't respond.

dzuchowski 06-30-2008 11:47 AM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qbunnie (Post 331876)
That is a very weak point. Just because it is called windows mobile doesn't mean its a PC first. The HTC Shift, that is a PC first, phone second.
I'll tell you what, you take you good work ethic and look up you 'friends' carriers, and then what the carrier email is, and email them your pictures. I don't f-ing care. I will be 'lazy' and use sMMS, and maybe Sprint/Microsoft's MMS program when that comes out later. It doesn't matter a SINGLE bit to me. And what's this about apple? Just because apply doesn't have it, you don't want it? that's cute. I don't know I'm even arguing with you about this. The ONLY thing I wanted to get across was that email is not, in fact, MMS. It has a secondary function that will substitute for MMS. You haven't disagreed, just given me reasons why MMS is for the lazy. How does that help? It's just insulting. And it doesn't even make sense.
I don't know why I'm wasting my time arguing with you. This is WAY off topic. You know what? I'll give you the last shot, in the interest of everybody. So go ahead and reply and tell me that I'm fat and lazy and how the Mogul can play Crysis. I won't respond.

look, i dont see what the issue is about mms. What is so bad about using an email address to send a pic or video? are users so lazy that they cant find out who is on what wireless carrier? All I do is place the pic email address into my contact list for that person or better yet try this.... email the picture to the persons email address like someone@yahoo.com have them email their picture to you at your email address like donzuchowski@yahoo.com then they would be able to view it on their phone...

halfdriven 06-30-2008 12:17 PM

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"http://www.fonefinder.net/ and the site will tell me who the provider is for that number"

not always accurate, a T Mobile number ported to Sprint still shows up as T Mobile, and I agree with dzuchowski, and you could always use the email addy on the phones account

dzuchowski 06-30-2008 12:25 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
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Originally Posted by halfdriven (Post 331968)
"http://www.fonefinder.net/ and the site will tell me who the provider is for that number"

not always accurate, a T Mobile number ported to Sprint still shows up as T Mobile, and I agree with dzuchowski, and you could always use the email addy on the phones account

valid point about porting...

deboy69 06-30-2008 12:29 PM

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Seriously people this isnt a trouble shooting thread. If you need help with your phone start a new thread or alteast do some research and SEARCH! Anyways back to the topic. I dont know about anyone else but phonescoop.com said that sprint would have an update for winmo 6.1 in june but i looked for that same news release from sprint and now it says summer 2008. I could have sworn it said june 2008. but since there is no update. I must have remebered wrong. sprint news about winmo 6.1 release: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1124415&highlight= So summer last tell september or october right? So it maybe months before we see an update.

dzuchowski 06-30-2008 12:32 PM

Re: Sprint ROM release date speculation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deboy69 (Post 331981)
Seriously people this isnt a trouble shooting thread. If you need help with your phone start a new thread or alteast do some research and SEARCH! Anyways back to the topic. I dont know about anyone else but phonescoop.com said that sprint would have an update for winmo 6.1 in june but i looked for that same news release from sprint and now it says summer 2008. I could have sworn it said june 2008. but since there is no update. I must have remebered wrong. sprint news about winmo 6.1 release: http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1124415&highlight= So summer last tell september or october right? So it maybe months before we see an update.


no not months down the road!!! me wants it now, me need to replace phone it has blue dot, store i know wont take it with 6.1


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