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Re: ITC finds HTC guilty of 2 Apple patents

thats wrong doc it wasn't that long ago that apple was all for android to destroy ms and now seeing how ms ain't the case anymore their going after google for not getting the job done when u think about it

Re: ITC finds HTC guilty of 2 Apple patents

Look at more than half of the iPhone features. A lot of them we have been seeing for years before the iPhone on custom ROMs and apps developed at sites like xda, here, howardforums, etc. Ideas literally stolen from devs who published as freeware, put into Apples product and covered by patents that Apple filed. Once again it's all down to Android's rapid gain on market shares. Everybody is switching. I always recommend Android to friends and have several converted recently. The latest, from a iPhone 4 with hardware problems (power button, vol button, etc) that he had to fix at his own expense.

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Originally Posted by Dr.8820 (Post 2128882)

This whole thing is about to get really ugly if Apple wins against Motorola and Samsung...no way, IMHO, that they license to HTC, Moto, or Sammy. Apple seems hell bent on destroying Android, which is why Nokia went with WP7, even Microsoft is getting paid off Android. Read more here FOSS Patents: These tables show HOW Android infringes Apple's two HTC-beater patents

Most of these things end up in cross-licensing deals. If Apple declines the patent for licensing to HTC, HTC can decline the patents to Apple for S3 graphics stuff causing a ban of iphones, ipads and macs. Since neither companies want they they will cross license. Also a judge can force Apple to license those patents. If Android products are blocked considering the marketshare, it would make Apple nearly a monopoly in the US..thus no way is it going all the way to a ban.

As for the M$ getting paid off android, what M$ is doing is going to companies who are their clients and making a deal behind the table. I guarantee you that HTC is not pay $5 per Android device. What most likely is going on is that 5$ that they pay per android device, the total/partial sum is then subtracted from WP7/windows embed licenses that they buy from M$. I've been in patent lawsuits before and that is just how they play this game, They wanted $100,000 + licensing fees...we ended up settling for like $1,000 and on record it says "undisclosed amount" and then they use the fact that we gave in against other companies to make millions..its same old game >.> *yawn*

Re: ITC finds HTC guilty of 2 Apple patents

I don't even get how these 2 patents apply to Android. Sure very loosely, but they are very broad descriptions and we've seen other products that meet the same descriptions since long before an iphone.

United States Patent: 5946647

System and method for performing an action on a structure in computer-generated data
Filed: February 1, 1996

United States Patent: 6343263

Real-time signal processing system for serially transmitted data
Filed: August 2, 1994

It's obvious this attack on HTC is due to the huge success of Android. There was obviously nothing stolen from the iphone. I didn't think it would actually happen, perhaps just wishful thinking, but Apple and Microsoft managed to screw the competition. If they can do that then we all lost. Even iphone users. We are losing our choice as consumers.

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Did you guys read the nice article that PPCG wrote on this story? No? Must be because it still hasn't been published, as I surmised would happen.

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Originally Posted by rainfreak (Post 2129284)

Did you guys read the nice article that PPCG wrote on this story? No? Must be because it still hasn't been published, as I surmised would happen.

I don't think its related :/..I think news staff are on a break or something as I don't see any new articles for a bit..I can write about it if you want.."gTen Style" ;)

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U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647 on a "system and method for performing an action on a structure in computer-generated data" (in its complaint, Apple provides examples such as the recognition of "phone numbers, post-office addresses and dates" and the ability to perform "related actions with that data"; one example is that "the system may receive data that includes a phone number, highlight it for a user, and then, in response to a user's interaction with the highlighted text, offer the user the choice of making a phone call to the number")
U.S. Patent No. 6,343,263 on a "real-time signal processing system for serially transmitted data" (while this sounds like a pure hardware patent, there are various references in it to logical connections, drivers, programs; in its complaint, Apple said that this patent "relates generally to providing programming abstraction layers for real-time processing applications")

What a joke. We have an amazingly stupid legal system that would even dignify this garbage.

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Originally Posted by rainfreak (Post 2129284)

Did you guys read the nice article that PPCG wrote on this story? No? Must be because it still hasn't been published, as I surmised would happen.

My offer for you to join the news team still stands.