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tt C6 08-17-2010 01:04 AM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
After listening to the Cnet review, I wanted to tear my speakers out of the wall.
Can Cnet find an editor that speaks proper English?
I do NOT want to be subjected to Nicole Lee's HORRIBLE English and THICK accent ever again.

Scientific 08-17-2010 01:14 AM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tt C6 (Post 1914453)
After listening to the Cnet review, I wanted to tear my speakers out of the wall.
Can Cnet find an editor that speaks proper English?
I do NOT want to be subjected to Nicole Lee's HORRIBLE English and THICK accent ever again.

LOL...that bad huh? :lol:

ppcgpirate 08-17-2010 06:46 AM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tt C6 (Post 1914453)
After listening to the Cnet review, I wanted to tear my speakers out of the wall.
Can Cnet find an editor that speaks proper English?
I do NOT want to be subjected to Nicole Lee's HORRIBLE English and THICK accent ever again.

I understood her perfectly fine. she seemed nervous though, not sure why, she's been doing those previews for a while now.

blazinazn 08-17-2010 07:08 AM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppcgpirate (Post 1913707)
Engadget

"[Update: We just spoke with Samsung, who told us that Google is now requiring that the "use wireless networks" setting for location-based services be turned off by default in Android devices -- in other words, no AGPS unless you manually enable it. Sure enough, we went into Settings, found that it was disabled on the Epic, turned it on, and we were good to go. No GPS bug!]"


If that's the case, I won't be as hesitant to pick this phone up. The GPS bug can get quite annoying sometimes on my Moment and to release a new phone with the same exact problem, :banghead:

ppcgpirate 08-17-2010 09:24 AM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
another update,

Samsung Galaxy S GPS-gate: two problems, not one (and what to do about it)

By Chris Ziegler http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...writer_rss.gif posted Aug 17th 2010 2:26AM
Feature



You may have noticed the update on our Epic 4G review from yesterday where we lauded the fact that Samsung seemed to have fixed the GPS problem plaguing every other Galaxy S flavor released thus far, but it turns out there are actually two distinct issues. One has a fix -- sort of -- while the other is hopefully what we're going to get next month. Here are the two failure modes, based on what we know so far:
  • "Use wireless networks" is now turned off by default, but even with it on, the phone may be slow or unable to determine even a rough location. Originally, we'd believed this was the only problem. Samsung tells us that it's a new Google mandate that Android devices be shipped with the "use wireless networks" option disabled, which means you're relying on traditional GPS alone to determine your location -- a lost cause indoors, in urban canyons, or under dense tree cover. Indeed, we discovered it was turned off on our Captivate, Vibrant, and Epic 4G after fresh hard resets, and there's no indication to the user that it's probably in their best interest to enable it; we're accustomed to being presented with the option during account setup on other Android devices, but it doesn't happen here. After enabling it from settings, we found that both the Captivate and Epic 4G were able to get our location with 1,000 to 1,500-meter accuracy practically immediately in Google Maps, though the Vibrant still never came through; it had the weakest signal of the three, which may have accounted for that (though it never dropped the signal altogether).
  • The regular GPS circuitry and software aren't doing their job. Cell tower triangulation and WiFi location database services like Skyhook only take you so far -- at the end of the day, you still need to tune in to the birds a few thousand miles up to figure out precisely where you are. All Galaxy S models seem to be having trouble turning GPS reception into coordinates, even when the phone is able to see four or more satellites in view (four is the minimum you normally need for a precise, three-dimensional lock). In some cases, resetting the phone apparently helps, but it ceases to work again after a day or two of use. To our knowledge, none of the homebrew fixes out there have been able to solve this part of the problem perfectly and permanently. The Captivate and Vibrant are both affected by this one; we're not sure on the Epic, but we're working to nail it down.
What this means for you: for now, simply make sure you have "Use wireless networks" checked in your Galaxy S's settings under the "Location & security" menu. It won't get you the most reliable, precise location you should be entitled to, but it's a start -- and next month's round of firmware updates should hopefully take us the rest of the way.

blazinazn 08-17-2010 09:39 AM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppcgpirate (Post 1914629)
another update,

Samsung Galaxy S GPS-gate: two problems, not one (and what to do about it)

By Chris Ziegler http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...writer_rss.gif posted Aug 17th 2010 2:26AM
Feature



You may have noticed the update on our Epic 4G review from yesterday where we lauded the fact that Samsung seemed to have fixed the GPS problem plaguing every other Galaxy S flavor released thus far, but it turns out there are actually two distinct issues. One has a fix -- sort of -- while the other is hopefully what we're going to get next month. Here are the two failure modes, based on what we know so far:
  • "Use wireless networks" is now turned off by default, but even with it on, the phone may be slow or unable to determine even a rough location. Originally, we'd believed this was the only problem. Samsung tells us that it's a new Google mandate that Android devices be shipped with the "use wireless networks" option disabled, which means you're relying on traditional GPS alone to determine your location -- a lost cause indoors, in urban canyons, or under dense tree cover. Indeed, we discovered it was turned off on our Captivate, Vibrant, and Epic 4G after fresh hard resets, and there's no indication to the user that it's probably in their best interest to enable it; we're accustomed to being presented with the option during account setup on other Android devices, but it doesn't happen here. After enabling it from settings, we found that both the Captivate and Epic 4G were able to get our location with 1,000 to 1,500-meter accuracy practically immediately in Google Maps, though the Vibrant still never came through; it had the weakest signal of the three, which may have accounted for that (though it never dropped the signal altogether).
  • The regular GPS circuitry and software aren't doing their job. Cell tower triangulation and WiFi location database services like Skyhook only take you so far -- at the end of the day, you still need to tune in to the birds a few thousand miles up to figure out precisely where you are. All Galaxy S models seem to be having trouble turning GPS reception into coordinates, even when the phone is able to see four or more satellites in view (four is the minimum you normally need for a precise, three-dimensional lock). In some cases, resetting the phone apparently helps, but it ceases to work again after a day or two of use. To our knowledge, none of the homebrew fixes out there have been able to solve this part of the problem perfectly and permanently. The Captivate and Vibrant are both affected by this one; we're not sure on the Epic, but we're working to nail it down.
What this means for you: for now, simply make sure you have "Use wireless networks" checked in your Galaxy S's settings under the "Location & security" menu. It won't get you the most reliable, precise location you should be entitled to, but it's a start -- and next month's round of firmware updates should hopefully take us the rest of the way.

I think someone may have mentioned this earlier but i wonder if it'll be different since the Epic will be on CDMA and not GSM..

gTen 08-18-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
I added the BGR Q&A where they answer some of the people's questions:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...ions-answered/

ppcgpirate 08-18-2010 05:34 PM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
I don't understand why some UI features are missing on this phone while they are included in other versions of the phone. makes no sense at all.

customizable bottom 4 icons,
being able to remove home pages
FM radio
daily briefing widget

hookahzorr 08-18-2010 05:49 PM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppcgpirate (Post 1916412)
I don't understand why some UI features are missing on this phone while they are included in other versions of the phone. makes no sense at all.

customizable bottom 4 icons,
being able to remove home pages
FM radio
daily briefing widget

I know right WTF Sprint? Any way once its rooted there will be clean roms and maybe roms that will add these things they took away. :)

ppcgpirate 08-19-2010 12:58 AM

Re: Engadget Epic 4g Review + Gizmodo, Slashgear, Laptopmag, Cnet Review
 
mobile burn video review

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb7rXruVU-M

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezNUJx-Lq_M


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