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vincemash 10-02-2008 10:13 AM

Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
This may have been posted before but after a half hour searching I cannot find it:

I am trying to decide between upgrading to the Pro or Diamond (currently the Mogul on SERO) I am trying to correlate the exact differences before making my decision, so far this is what I have come up with:

Pro's Pros:
Pro has slide out keyboard
Video Out
256 MB more ROM (i may be wrong here)
96 MB more RAM (i may be wrong here)
Camera Flash
Micro SD Slot


Pro's Cons
Heavier
Thicker

What am I missing here...need your help to decide...decisions...decisions.

rdcrds 10-02-2008 10:19 AM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincemas (Post 442970)
This may have been posted before but after a half hour searching I cannot find it:

I am trying to decide between upgrading to the Pro or Diamond (currently the Mogul on SERO) I am trying to correlate the exact differences before making my decision, so far this is what I have come up with:

Pro's Pros:
Pro has slide out keyboard
Video Out
256 MB more ROM (i may be wrong here)
96 MB more RAM (i may be wrong here)
Camera Flash
Micro SD Slot


Pro's Cons
Heavier
Thicker

What am I missing here...need your help to decide...decisions...decisions.


More Money? not that it is going to stop me changing from the diamond to the pro but it will be 50$ more and also you will have to purchase A SD card or Cards to replace the 4 gig you get with the diamond.

Smaller? as you said some like the smaller size.

Lastly well the keyboard Touchpal to me is very easy to use and i have never used a slide out keyboard before so i hope i can get use to it.

Well i did read that the Slide out Keyboard has some play i hope that is not a problem.

themuffinman 10-02-2008 10:20 AM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Ram is the same on both models(on the cdma versions), everything else you listed is correct in addition to the diamond having internal 4gb memory with no sd card slot. As far as what you want its really up to you. You gotta ask yourself how important the microsd card slot is and the keyboard and of course the size difference. For me, I am going to end up getting both phones but my main phone will be the pro since I gotta have the card slot and keyboard.

vincemash 10-02-2008 12:38 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 442982)
Ram is the same on both models(on the cdma versions), everything else you listed is correct in addition to the diamond having internal 4gb memory with no sd card slot. As far as what you want its really up to you. You gotta ask yourself how important the microsd card slot is and the keyboard and of course the size difference. For me, I am going to end up getting both phones but my main phone will be the pro since I gotta have the card slot and keyboard.

I'm thinking I want to wait for these to come out in stores (now looking like November) so I can see them and actually feel the size difference.....right now I'm leaning towards the Diamond. I want something I can fit into my pocket, My Mogul is just too bulky for me and I feel the Pro will follow that trend.

Maybe I'll download the Diamond keyboard and also Touchpal and see if I can get along without the slide out keyboard for the next month.

Thanks for the replies

drexappeal 10-02-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincemas (Post 442970)
This may have been posted before but after a half hour searching I cannot find it:

I am trying to decide between upgrading to the Pro or Diamond (currently the Mogul on SERO) I am trying to correlate the exact differences before making my decision, so far this is what I have come up with:

Pro's Pros:
Pro has slide out keyboard
Video Out
256 MB more ROM (i may be wrong here)
96 MB more RAM (i may be wrong here)
Camera Flash
Micro SD Slot


Pro's Cons
Heavier
Thicker

What am I missing here...need your help to decide...decisions...decisions.

Why is it considered a "con" for a phone being heavier? I actually consider that a Pro (no pun intended). It's only thicker by .1mm for the cdma versions.

Azrael 10-02-2008 01:04 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
You know what guys?

I'm 37 years old, and have been an IT guy for the last 10 years - admittingly I wanted the Diamond Pro because of the keyboard. I've learned that I'm a 'hands on' kind of guy, but guess what? Due to the fact I'm in Canada, and couldn't wait - took the plunge after my HTC 6700 was retired, I went for the Touch Diamond!

I braced myself having no keyboard, but guess what? I dig it. I can use the onscreen full QWERTY keyboard, and still do what I need to do. Also I've learned that with more advancing technology coming out, soon everything with a 'screen' will be touch-ready.

So it's my suggestion that we'd get used to using technology with no keyboard or mouse. Ask yourselves this: what is mobile technology doing for the public? Teaching them new skills by navigating their devices with no need for keyboards or mouse. I strongly suggest we 'IT/computer geeks' learn to do without the keyboard.

So far, I have no need for a keyboard. I can do remote jobs, navigate using the on-screen QWERTY keyboard (hated it before on the 6700, ALWAYS used the keyboard), and again - I'm digging it.

Fellas - if I can do without, so can you.

Teach yourselves a new trick - go keyboard-less! w00t!

drexappeal 10-02-2008 01:29 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrael (Post 443203)
You know what guys?

I'm 37 years old, and have been an IT guy for the last 10 years - admittingly I wanted the Diamond Pro because of the keyboard. I've learned that I'm a 'hands on' kind of guy, but guess what? Due to the fact I'm in Canada, and couldn't wait - took the plunge after my HTC 6700 was retired, I went for the Touch Diamond!

I braced myself having no keyboard, but guess what? I dig it. I can use the onscreen full QWERTY keyboard, and still do what I need to do. Also I've learned that with more advancing technology coming out, soon everything with a 'screen' will be touch-ready.

So it's my suggestion that we'd get used to using technology with no keyboard or mouse. Ask yourselves this: what is mobile technology doing for the public? Teaching them new skills by navigating their devices with no need for keyboards or mouse. I strongly suggest we 'IT/computer geeks' learn to do without the keyboard.

So far, I have no need for a keyboard. I can do remote jobs, navigate using the on-screen QWERTY keyboard (hated it before on the 6700, ALWAYS used the keyboard), and again - I'm digging it.

Fellas - if I can do without, so can you.

Teach yourselves a new trick - go keyboard-less! w00t!

I understand what you're saying and technology is definitely advancing at a more rapid pace in the new millenium. Thing is, there will always have to be some sort of phone with a hard keyboard (think of those that are blind).

My thing regarding the keyboard is I can feel when I've made a mistake vs. using a onscreen keyboard and not having to look at the keys to make sure I don't make a mistake. That saves me time and time=money. Just my perspective.

criticalaudioinc 10-02-2008 01:29 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Its more of a matter of what you perfer, I also have the mogul and I am upgrading the to touch pro, The reason I am not selecting the diamond is due to it does not have a SD slot, and that is something I require for my work enviroment. The keyboard I can live with out in a way but not in some cases so again it comes down as a requirement, Plus the memory upgrade in the pro is nice feature. Hope that helps

hempy 10-02-2008 01:46 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrael (Post 443203)
I strongly suggest we 'IT/computer geeks' learn to do without the keyboard.

Those would be considered "fightin words" with about 80% or my IT/nerd friends. Mosts geeks (that I know) pride themselves on their ability to function (sometimes better) with a keyboard alone.

IMO, I feel a software-based input system puts an unnecessary load on a device. I personally love the integration trend technology is undergoing, but I still feel that peripherals are a much more practical method of in/output than total integration... one reason I can't stand working on tablets.

shark1987 10-02-2008 02:29 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrael (Post 443203)
You know what guys?

I'm 37 years old, and have been an IT guy for the last 10 years - admittingly I wanted the Diamond Pro because of the keyboard. I've learned that I'm a 'hands on' kind of guy, but guess what? Due to the fact I'm in Canada, and couldn't wait - took the plunge after my HTC 6700 was retired, I went for the Touch Diamond!

I braced myself having no keyboard, but guess what? I dig it. I can use the onscreen full QWERTY keyboard, and still do what I need to do. Also I've learned that with more advancing technology coming out, soon everything with a 'screen' will be touch-ready.

So it's my suggestion that we'd get used to using technology with no keyboard or mouse. Ask yourselves this: what is mobile technology doing for the public? Teaching them new skills by navigating their devices with no need for keyboards or mouse. I strongly suggest we 'IT/computer geeks' learn to do without the keyboard.

So far, I have no need for a keyboard. I can do remote jobs, navigate using the on-screen QWERTY keyboard (hated it before on the 6700, ALWAYS used the keyboard), and again - I'm digging it.

Fellas - if I can do without, so can you.

Teach yourselves a new trick - go keyboard-less! w00t!

I agree with you, when I swapped out my Mogul for the Touch I thought I was gonna hate it but I didn't. I'm pretty fast without the keyboard now. But, as said earlier in this thread, not having a microSD slot is a killer for the Diamond, if it had one I'd probably have a Diamond right now. I've got a 8GB card that I got for $25 a few weeks ago, so when I get my Pro I'll already have more memory on it than the Diamond. Which is a big deal for me cause I listen to music all the time on my touch (actually listening to it right now). Plus soon the 16GB cards will be just as cheap. Then the 32GB cards will follow. And I'll get each one when they are less than $40 each.

I think it'll be nice having a real keyboard again though. Plus wifi will be awesome for my classes in some of the buildings on campus that I don't get reception.

caifalex 10-02-2008 03:25 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
For me it's not about the KB, I've said it before... I actually prefer it not to have a keyboard in exchange for a thinner phone. I've used PCM Keyboard for a year and I really, really, like it. In fact I think that is the keyboard I will use on my PRO for texts (physical KB for email)... BUT, and that is a BIG BUT... the Pro has video out. Imagine the possibilities... slingbox available ANYWHERE (no need to have wifi since the ev-do is fast enough), carrying around a couple of movies and watching them on my friend's TV's. I actually own an archos wifi 160GB and I'm thinking of getting rid of it since I probably won't have a need for it, the function I will lose is DVR but I can live without it, especially now that they are charging for the TV guide service. I probably won't be needing the 160GB since I'll be able to use ORB and stream whatever is on my computer out to a TV monitor anywhere. (of course I'll lose the bigger screen but I can live without it.. plus I can hook up anywhere anyway)

I'm thinking of using the Archos money to install an LCD in my car... imagine that... TV (or web on a big screen) anywhere!!

Thus, unless they figure out how to put TV-out on the diamond, it's the pro for me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrael (Post 443203)
You know what guys?

I'm 37 years old, and have been an IT guy for the last 10 years - admittingly I wanted the Diamond Pro because of the keyboard. I've learned that I'm a 'hands on' kind of guy, but guess what? Due to the fact I'm in Canada, and couldn't wait - took the plunge after my HTC 6700 was retired, I went for the Touch Diamond!

I braced myself having no keyboard, but guess what? I dig it. I can use the onscreen full QWERTY keyboard, and still do what I need to do. Also I've learned that with more advancing technology coming out, soon everything with a 'screen' will be touch-ready.

So it's my suggestion that we'd get used to using technology with no keyboard or mouse. Ask yourselves this: what is mobile technology doing for the public? Teaching them new skills by navigating their devices with no need for keyboards or mouse. I strongly suggest we 'IT/computer geeks' learn to do without the keyboard.

So far, I have no need for a keyboard. I can do remote jobs, navigate using the on-screen QWERTY keyboard (hated it before on the 6700, ALWAYS used the keyboard), and again - I'm digging it.

Fellas - if I can do without, so can you.

Teach yourselves a new trick - go keyboard-less! w00t!


Compusmurf 10-02-2008 04:15 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Lol, every phone/pocket PC I've ever had has been "keyboardless"

I want a phone WITH a keyboard for a change!!!!!

Baffles 10-02-2008 04:47 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrael (Post 443203)
You know what guys?

I'm 37 years old, and have been an IT guy for the last 10 years - admittingly I wanted the Diamond Pro because of the keyboard. I've learned that I'm a 'hands on' kind of guy, but guess what? Due to the fact I'm in Canada, and couldn't wait - took the plunge after my HTC 6700 was retired, I went for the Touch Diamond!

I braced myself having no keyboard, but guess what? I dig it. I can use the onscreen full QWERTY keyboard, and still do what I need to do. Also I've learned that with more advancing technology coming out, soon everything with a 'screen' will be touch-ready.

So it's my suggestion that we'd get used to using technology with no keyboard or mouse. Ask yourselves this: what is mobile technology doing for the public? Teaching them new skills by navigating their devices with no need for keyboards or mouse. I strongly suggest we 'IT/computer geeks' learn to do without the keyboard.

So far, I have no need for a keyboard. I can do remote jobs, navigate using the on-screen QWERTY keyboard (hated it before on the 6700, ALWAYS used the keyboard), and again - I'm digging it.

Fellas - if I can do without, so can you.

Teach yourselves a new trick - go keyboard-less! w00t!

The only problem is you're not keyboardless. It's just an emulated keyboard on screen, so its no different really, only crappier (IMO).

Dr.8820 10-02-2008 08:16 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
i agree.i had a treo and although the touch took some getting used to,i came to love the touch screen.

Dr.8820 10-02-2008 08:21 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baffles (Post 443508)
The only problem is you're not keyboardless. It's just an emulated keyboard on screen, so its no different really, only crappier (IMO).

that's a good point also.the touch's keypad was made better after the rom update and from what i hear,the diamond and pro will be better.but i like the pro because of the flash on the camera(brothers' got a mogul and rubs this in).

toinejuan 10-02-2008 08:39 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
I've had my Diamond for a week and some change now, I do love the SIP. I tried the diamond keyboard on my mogul but this ones a lot better and the functionality is a lot more responsive. I do however want an expandable slot and would be nice to have flash on my camera, those are the only two reasons I'm leaving the Diamond and going to a PRO. If it had a sd slot, I'd be cool, though this phone is sexy and hardly anyone has them right now so I love showing it off but I need a micro sd slot and flash.

scott31337 10-02-2008 10:28 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
You can always put the Diamond On Screen Keyboard or SPB on the Touch Pro - no one's going to stop you :)

drexappeal 10-02-2008 11:27 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scott31337 (Post 443882)
You can always put the Diamond On Screen Keyboard or SPB on the Touch Pro - no one's going to stop you :)

i was under the impression that the touch pro would have the same on screen keyboard as the diamond, as well.

RAzorV 12-19-2008 12:58 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
okay, Other than more Memory (I think 4GB is a lot) why do people say that an SD Slot is a MUST?

My company is redoing their contract w/Sprint and I have a choice of the Diamond or the Pro. Just trying to condiser why an SD Slot is a must. I understand that 8gb or 16gb maybe what you need if you are totally into music and movies. But 4gb is plenty for me.

Also, what can yoiu really use the TV OUT jack for? taking a movie to a friends house and watching it using the Pro? Hummm, never thoght of that, but is there anything else?

thanks to all that can help me. I can do fine with an On-Screen Keyboard.

equilibriumly11 02-01-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Ok just saw this thread and felt I should give my two cents.

I bought a diamond right when it came out. Right off the bat I had problems. It would constantly and suddenly start to emit a loud siren that could not be stopped unless you take out the battery and if I would put it back in it would keep making noise till it felt like it was time to stop.

Sprint replaced that one and the next had similar issues. Went back they replaced it again only to have the same issues and now this one was extremely slow. I was basically forced to wait for a ROM update or switch the phone. They told me it could be more than six months for a ROM update.

So after much time with customer service I got them to send me a pro. It is a little bigger than the diamond but not much. They got the software right on with the pro. It runs alot faster than the diamond. All the fuctions work perfectly. The diamond always had a problem with the end button getting stuck but the pro's buttons work flawlessly.

I love it and the added size does not matter it is still smaller than an Iphone. It just works. Never get a diamond. I know its a sexy phone but it doesnt work.

latepenguin 02-02-2009 12:40 AM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by equilibriumly11 (Post 682600)
Ok just saw this thread and felt I should give my two cents.

I bought a diamond right when it came out. Right off the bat I had problems. It would constantly and suddenly start to emit a loud siren that could not be stopped unless you take out the battery and if I would put it back in it would keep making noise till it felt like it was time to stop.

Sprint replaced that one and the next had similar issues. Went back they replaced it again only to have the same issues and now this one was extremely slow. I was basically forced to wait for a ROM update or switch the phone. They told me it could be more than six months for a ROM update.

So after much time with customer service I got them to send me a pro. It is a little bigger than the diamond but not much. They got the software right on with the pro. It runs a lot faster than the diamond. All the fuctions work perfectly. The diamond always had a problem with the end button getting stuck but the pro's buttons work flawlessly.

I love it and the added size does not matter it is still smaller than an Iphone. It just works. Never get a diamond. I know its a sexy phone but it doesnt work.

Hmm odd, I haven't experience any issues with my diamond other than the usual battery issue. Must have gotten a rotten apple :evil4:.

Being a recent mogul user, I wanted the pro because of keyboard and sd slot but messed with the diamond first to see if I could go keyboardless. Worked out really well because I enjoy the diamond alot. GPS is responsive (3-5 secs for my position). 4gb internal is enough for me(barely scratched 2 gigs). Camera without the flash is fine with me (no need for photos at night.) As long as I can make calls, text msg, check webpages, get directions, check emails and IM (thank you palringo!) I'm happy.

Everyone has there own needs. Mines are met with the diamond. :)


One thing that has me concerned is that a lot of people are ditching the diamonds for pros. Hopefully this move doesn't make the diamonds extinct!

Just my 2 cents!

ivan1.ruiz 02-02-2009 12:39 PM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
Both are fine is up to you If you like the Extra memory and keyboard form the SD card..

Lets see the Diamond is smaller, can get most applications that the Pro gets and has FM radio unlocked

The Touch Pro has a keyboard, SD card slot for up to 32gb when it comes out, TV out option to view your device on a big TV, and the bad thing is that FM radio is still not unlocked.

Size: Going fro the Mogul to the Pro you will think the pro is smaller and going from the Diamond to the Pro well then the pro will become almost a brick to some people.. You get used to the size. Believe me I've had both.

ElAguila 02-03-2009 02:47 AM

Re: Sprint Diamond vs. Touch Pro
 
I am looking at this issues as well. Other than the Pro having the keyboard and a memory expansion slot, are there any performance differences between them? I have realized on my older 6700 that I don't use the keyboard and I have only been using at 2GB microSD card. I don't use it for watching movies or music. Also is there a wm kitchen for both the pro and the diamond?


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