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raptors2k 08-06-2011 02:30 PM

Photon or Evo?
 
I'm coming from a htc touch pro using Energy.. very good chef I loved his ROM. I am Kind of new too this android thing.. I had a Touch 4 and love it.. (jailbroken ofcource).

So how customizable is this Photon or Evo?.. I need something that I can customize the home screen to my taste. and most important steal tethering.

Any advice guys? thank you

Riley 08-06-2011 03:30 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Moved to phone comparison. You will get more insight and views there. Good luck.

gTen 08-06-2011 04:25 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raptors2k (Post 2135616)
I'm coming from a htc touch pro using Energy.. very good chef I loved his ROM. I am Kind of new too this android thing.. I had a Touch 4 and love it.. (jailbroken ofcource).

So how customizable is this Photom or Evo?.. I need something that I can customize the home screen to my taste. and most important steal tethering.

Any advice guys? thank you

Its Photon, not Photom..lol

Homescreen can be customized on any device..as for rooting and tethering, tethering (wifi) requires rooting..and at the moment the rooting method for photon requires buying/using the dock...(it came out less then a week ago)..Evo 3d should has root...Evo3d will most likely have more custom roms...

raptors2k 08-06-2011 05:08 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Yes it's the Photon...sorry..
which one is better?.. or should i just wait for the Samsung Galaxy 2?

gTen 08-06-2011 05:41 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raptors2k (Post 2135650)
Yes it's the Photon...sorry..
which one is better?.. or should i just wait for the Samsung Galaxy 2?

Well Galaxy S2 destroys them both in terms of raw specs..but its your call...at the end of the day..what do you use your phone to use the phone for? If its just tethering even a single core phone with 1ghz processor you can get cheaply may do..

orangekid 08-08-2011 10:22 AM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
The GS2 does not "destroy" either phone in raw specs, it does however, get better scores in benchmarks on stock ROMs. All 3 have comparable specs, unless you want to get into pedantic arguments about things most users don't care about.

Between the Evo3D and the Photon I'd go Evo3D all the way.

The Evo3D gives you more customizing options because you can choose to have Sense3.0 which you cannot get on the GS2 or the Photon, you can however run touchwiz and motoblur respectively on the Evo, so you do get more choice in UI.

As gTen says, you can tether with a Touch Diamond if you want, lol. Or get a Hero or Evo. Unless you want to record in 1080p or run some crazy ass games then a dual-core phone isn't really what you need.

acts 08-08-2011 10:55 AM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
I actually own a Photon 4G and I love it. I got tired of waiting for the SGSII on Sprint in the US and bit the bullet about a week ago (actually it was more of a birthday present bribe). I have two sisters, both of whom have Evo3Ds (as well as 2 co-workers, and two good friends that have them), and having played with them, I think both are great phones, but I like my Photon 4G better.

The Evo3D does feel snappier with Sense 3.0, but the new revamped MotoBlur is not as bad as people make it out to be. I like the webtop, and got the HD Dock Station for my birthday, and I have plans on putting full ubuntu on there. Rooting is unbelievably easy, you could probably walk into a Sprint store and "borrow" their display HD dock to root your phone in a matter of minutes. XDA has people "renting" out docks to help others obtain root.

With JuiceDefender alone, and conditioned battery on medium to heavy use, I can get about 13 hours before my stock battery is fully dead. Kickstand is a plus. Sound quality is great. I tested my signal strength against my sisters Evo3D, and I get consistently better signal strength at the same exact spots @ my parents house and my own.

If you really don't like the motoblur lite, you can alway gets launcher pro, or but a new ROM on it (hopefully sooner than later when the unlock is given by motorola, I'd hold off on it until bootloader encryption is broken).

While I appreciate the 3D on the evo, I probably would not get as much use out of it as I do with the GSM capabilities of the Photon 4G, as I like to go overseas.

Also, I appreciate having 16 GB internal storage (about 8 usable, 3 gb for applications on phone), and I recently added a 32 gb class 10. That's a BIG plus over the Evo3D in my opinion.

I'd say go to a sprint store and check it out, compare the two. The only thing I wish my Photon 4G had was a better front facing camera.

acts 08-08-2011 11:08 AM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acts (Post 2136020)
Rooting is unbelievably easy, you could probably walk into a Sprint store and "borrow" their display HD dock to root your phone in a matter of minutes. XDA has people "renting" out docks to help others obtain root.

Also, to give you an idea of how easy rooting would be (and not needing to buy the HD Dock):

This is from XDA, but I've shortened it to what you need to do @ the sprint store.

At Home:
1. Install Superuser from the Market
2. Install SSHDroid from the Market
3. Open SSHDroid, and make sure it is listening on port 2222

At Sprint Store:
4. Go plug your Photon 4G into Sprint Store HD Dock
5. If someone asks, say you're testing and have interest in purchase
6. Open Firefox in webtop
7. Go to http://higgs.cygnusx-1.org/~edgan/pulse.tar
8. Open it instead of saving
9. Extract pulse.tar to /var/tmp

At home, or wherever:
10. Connect to phone via ssh at ip address mentioned in SSHDroid and port 2222
11. Type /var/tmp/pulse/pa_race
12. Type /var/tmp/pulse/install-su.sh
15. Type rm -rf /var/tmp/pulse*

Root.

You could literally do the dock file download @ the Sprint store in about a minute. Nobody would bother you while you test your phone on the dock.

gTen 08-08-2011 02:35 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2136012)
The GS2 does not "destroy" either phone in raw specs, it does however, get better scores in benchmarks on stock ROMs. All 3 have comparable specs, unless you want to get into pedantic arguments about things most users don't care about.

um..yes it does...notice I specifically use the term raw specs...;)

Let me explain it like this..one thing I noticed among notebooks is if say your playing a game and have a ok GPU..and if you took a core i3 pc and a core i7 pc...which one would play the game faster? you would think the core i7 would completely dominate but in reality the difference is marginal..I mean like 10%...max...

In terms of practical specs, dual-cores are overkill unless you do heavy multitasking alot...at least for now..once apps come out that take advantage of dual cores it will be a different ball game..

acts 08-08-2011 04:44 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
It all comes down to value added in the overall offering of the phone, no matter what the specs. You can have the best desktop specs on a computer but if all you do is use it for spreadsheets and notepad, what's the point?

One, do you really need a new phone ASAP, or can you continue to wait on getting a SGS2 from Sprint (and by the time it comes, we'll probably all be waiting on the Nexus Prime, or SGS3)? If you can't wait, biting the bullet now and getting a Photon, or Evo3D means you'll sooner be out of contract for your next phone.

Two, are you going to take advantage of your phone's features? If you get an Evo3D, are you really going to take advantage of that 3D capability? 3D games? 3D movies (perhaps HDMI out)? Taking Videos/Pictures in 3D? Converting your old movies to 3D?

With the Photon, you have GSM capabilities for overseas (do you travel? Would you take advantage of that?). You also get to use webtop (assuming you get an HD dock, or root so that you have the capability). Maybe they'll come out with a laptop dock, is that something you'd be interested in doing with your phone? I like the idea of combining my overseas Phone with laptop capabilities. In fact, I'll be heading out to Asia again in January, and will be able to take advantage of popping in a sim card on my Photon and using it in a couple countries without my phone feeling like dead weight.

orangekid 08-08-2011 04:53 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2136071)
um..yes it does...notice I specifically use the term raw specs...;)

Let me explain it like this..one thing I noticed among notebooks is if say your playing a game and have a ok GPU..and if you took a core i3 pc and a core i7 pc...which one would play the game faster? you would think the core i7 would completely dominate but in reality the difference is marginal..I mean like 10%...max...

In terms of practical specs, dual-cores are overkill unless you do heavy multitasking alot...at least for now..once apps come out that take advantage of dual cores it will be a different ball game..

right, but the mali doesn't "destory" adreno and this guy isn't even interested in playing playstation 5 emulated games. If you want to go for the ultimate gaming experience I say get an iPhone 5 if it does come to Sprint.

What I'm saying is you use the word "destroy" like we're comparing an HD2 to a TP2 or something, they are comparable in almost any application and I will admit that current benches show the GS2 to outperform the Evo3D but we're talking hard-core gaming here and it's not obliteration it's just slightly better gameplay. Oh and what if this dude wants to play some games with non etc texture compression and doesn't want to root his phone?

gTen 08-08-2011 05:12 PM

Re: Photom or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2136117)
right, but the mali doesn't "destory" adreno and this guy isn't even interested in playing playstation 5 emulated games. If you want to go for the ultimate gaming experience I say get an iPhone 5 if it does come to Sprint.

What I'm saying is you use the word "destroy" like we're comparing an HD2 to a TP2 or something, they are comparable in almost any application and I will admit that current benches show the GS2 to outperform the Evo3D but we're talking hard-core gaming here and it's not obliteration it's just slightly better gameplay. Oh and what if this dude wants to play some games with non etc texture compression and doesn't want to root his phone?

The 4x mali is 120m triangles, the adreno is 88m triangles...that said..I was giving an example of difference between raw specs and practical specs..it was not the idea of using a gaming comparison between adreno and the mali...

raw specs means the power of the components inside..they don't have to be practical..for HIS use I told him a single core is more then enough..

raptors2k 08-08-2011 09:09 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
Wow thx to you all for the many great input.
my primary use of the phone is customization, have to be able to root the phone easily. I love my iPod touch 4g because of the jailbreak. I Turn it into a gps device for driving.
I love to get free aps, but I do support the cookers, 3rd parties, such as energy rom.
My other uses are games, photo, lots of multitasking.
Im not too kind of the Evo 3d, I try it and it gets me dizzy.. I was more leaning towards the eve 4g or the photon.


The phone that will do for me will be 4g capable, a nice home screen where I can put my calendars, to do list, miss calls, all my dead line and essentials right there on the home page. And a nice display for movie viewing.:headbang:

I heard many great review about the display of the galaxy s, so will like to see the gs2, but don't know how long to wait...for such a phone.

gTen 08-08-2011 09:45 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raptors2k (Post 2136192)
I heard many great review about the display of the galaxy s, so will like to see the gs2, but don't know how long to wait...for such a phone.

The display on the sgs2 is better then the one on the original galaxy s...as for time-frame, estimates put it at end of august/early September..so if you decide to go with the Evo3d or the photon 4g you may still be in 30days of the sgs2..but again this date is based on "Speculation"...

forty01 08-11-2011 02:37 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
The thing I dislike about the SGS2 was it did not have the capability of adding any additional storage. I like options of adding 16 or 32 gb's. I was going to wait, but that through me off. Something simple like that takes me away from those products. That's just my feel, not everyone will probably think along those same lines... just an option kinda guy :)

gTen 08-11-2011 02:43 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forty01 (Post 2136762)
The thing I dislike about the SGS2 was it did not have the capability of adding any additional storage. I like options of adding 16 or 32 gb's. I was going to wait, but that through me off. Something simple like that takes me away from those products. That's just my feel, not everyone will probably think along those same lines... just an option kinda guy :)

um..what are you talking about? you confusing the SGS2 with the Nexus S...

orangekid 08-11-2011 03:04 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raptors2k (Post 2136192)
Wow thx to you all for the many great input.
my primary use of the phone is customization, have to be able to root the phone easily. I love my iPod touch 4g because of the jailbreak. I Turn it into a gps device for driving.
I love to get free aps, but I do support the cookers, 3rd parties, such as energy rom.
My other uses are games, photo, lots of multitasking.
Im not too kind of the Evo 3d, I try it and it gets me dizzy.. I was more leaning towards the eve 4g or the photon.


The phone that will do for me will be 4g capable, a nice home screen where I can put my calendars, to do list, miss calls, all my dead line and essentials right there on the home page. And a nice display for movie viewing.:headbang:

I heard many great review about the display of the galaxy s, so will like to see the gs2, but don't know how long to wait...for such a phone.

Based on what you are looking to do I would get an Evo4G if you aren't going to play crazy 3D games with high framerate or record 1080p. If you want that stuff I'd go SGS2 since it is like the Evo3D with slightly better specs (except for resolution) but without the 3D.

Since you want to root you can install Chainfire3D and play some Tegra2 and other games that you wouldn't be able to with the stock ROM.

mlin 08-11-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2136117)
If you want to go for the ultimate gaming experience I say get an iPhone 5 if it does come to Sprint.

I'm curious, are you saying this based off game availability or the gpu in the iP5?

tapa tapa tapa

forty01 08-11-2011 05:04 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2136764)
um..what are you talking about? you confusing the SGS2 with the Nexus S...

You are completely correct, lol
I was at work and got distracted.
The SGS2 has microsd capabilities.
Just waiting for the Sprint version (Epic 4G[COLOR=#336699 ! important][COLOR=#336699 ! important][/COLOR][/COLOR] Touch)
Hoping it's soon, so I can analyze it as well and put together decision.

orangekid 08-12-2011 04:01 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlin (Post 2136783)
I'm curious, are you saying this based off game availability or the gpu in the iP5?

tapa tapa tapa

both. Plus the fact that iOS is so much more efficiently an OS that the 3GS with its 600mhz processor and 256mb ram seems to run the same games a 1ghz 512mb Android device does smoother. I'm willing to bet a dual-core A5 with 1gb RAM will run shit a lot smoother than even the SGS2 and you won't have to root it to get it to play some of those games.

gTen 08-12-2011 06:54 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2137005)
both. Plus the fact that iOS is so much more efficiently an OS that the 3GS with its 600mhz processor and 256mb ram seems to run the same games a 1ghz 512mb Android device does smoother. I'm willing to bet a dual-core A5 with 1gb RAM will run shit a lot smoother than even the SGS2 and you won't have to root it to get it to play some of those games.

I'd have to disagree on the comment about the ghz and stuff...I can limit my phone to 600mhz and still play most games smoothly..in actuality my phone rarely even hits 1ghz because it doesn't need to...the 600mhz processor is not what is determent but the GPU and the GPU in the iphone 4 and iphone 3gs is the same...that the 3gs on the other hand starts to have issues with games like infinity blade...

Also if I remember correctly it renders at a lower resolution then on iphone 4 re-scales it 2x the size..

I am not gonna take a bet how the A5 is going to compare because we don't know the details yet..

orangekid 08-13-2011 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2137030)
I'd have to disagree on the comment about the ghz and stuff...I can limit my phone to 600mhz and still play most games smoothly..in actuality my phone rarely even hits 1ghz because it doesn't need to...the 600mhz processor is not what is determent but the GPU and the GPU in the iphone 4 and iphone 3gs is the same...that the 3gs on the other hand starts to have issues with games like infinity blade...

Also if I remember correctly it renders at a lower resolution then on iphone 4 re-scales it 2x the size..

I am not gonna take a bet how the A5 is going to compare because we don't know the details yet..

Its supposed to have a sick gpu but apple is so secretive about that stuff so we won't know till Oct. I'm saving my money for the nexus prime



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fixxxer2012 08-14-2011 09:04 PM

Re: Photon or Evo?
 
go evo.


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